Colgan staffing issues

kellwolf said:
IMO, that's BS right there. If the company considers the Q FO the top of the FOs and Saab FO better than 1900 FO, they should have different pay rates. Since they don't, then they should be considered about equal, thus not restricting moving back and forth between the three for QoL, commuting, whatever the hell the pilot wants to do issues. Restricting guys and saying they can't move "down" to a position that is essentially the same job and even pays the same is just covering for lack of management planning. It would be like our management saying you couldn't go from the -900 to the -200 b/c the -900 is a step "up." Reality is there's a seat lock, but it's b/c the -900 is treated as a different equipment type per the contract, not b/c it's considered by the powers that be a step up.

More than likely, management just doesn't wanna pony up the $$$ for differences training AND replace an FO on the Q.....
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Honestly, previously it didn't matter. FO's were upgrading about as fast as they could. Only recently has it become an issue. At this time in aviation, they should have given a choice at hire, then sat a 2 year seat/type lock. Training events are not cheap. If you want an easier commute from MHT, go to BWI. There is only a billion and a half SWA flights between the 2 all day long.
 
USMC-SGT said:
I would miss 2 of them, you included.

After having done the military you have friends that constantly come and go and then you go and come back or dont come back so I have become very efficient at simply saying "see ya later" to a friend that I may have had for years not knowing if we will cross paths again. Part of the job.
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So who's the other person? J/K You couldn't leave EWR? It's such a great happy place to be and sitting for 2+ hours extra every leg for your EDCT time just makes it great and never gets old.
 
We had a guy walk on our airplane the other day and say "WHAT!! I was not made aware that this would be a PROPELLER airplane!! Get me off this thing IMMEDIATELY. I am NOT going down with this plane and I want to talk to a continental agent!"

I think he feared the whistling Sh__-can of death!

That had nothing to do with the topic at hand but it was still funny at the time. If we get that in an airplane that was made in 2008 I would love to hear stories from the Beech guys.
 
USMC-SGT said:
We had a guy walk on our airplane the other day and say "WHAT!! I was not made aware that this would be a PROPELLER airplane!! Get me off this thing IMMEDIATELY. I am NOT going down with this plane and I want to talk to a continental agent!"

I think he feared the whistling Sh__-can of death!

That had nothing to do with the topic at hand but it was still funny at the time. If we get that in an airplane that was made in 2008 I would love to hear stories from the Beech guys.
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Ha Ha, I wonder if he says that when he gets on a DC-9 that was probably made before he was born. It's funny when PAX are afraid of the propellor. I can sympathize with them not liking the interior though. Nothing like what I like to call Eau De Saab, the smell is a mixture of old sweat, piss, and shame.
 
Heard over the company frequency couple nights ago that a lady refused to fly on the CRJ-200 because is was small and demanded to get off.
 
777forever said:
Heard over the company frequency couple nights ago that a lady refused to fly on the CRJ-200 because is was small and demanded to get off.
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I've had this one happen to me, too. I just shrug and say it's up to them, but the aircraft's not changing. If you wanna fly from MEM-RIC, it's gonna be on a CRJ. Your other option is driving or going through ATL. And you'll probably be on a -900 or another CRJ variant to ATL from MEM anyway.

Still not as bad as the pax in the exit row that refused to acknowledge the FA b/c she "didn't talk to the help." Not sure if that one's true or not, but given it was DTW-HPN, wouldn't surprise me.
 
TUCKnTRUCK said:
Lots of MHT FO's put off upgrade untill they can hold it again as a CA. MHT is the hardest base to get in the 9L system. I think on average there is like 1 new crewmember in MHT a year. Seems like most DW grads at colgan want MHT

Heard a strange rumor today that an ex colgan pilot at Gemini was offered a "Summer" position with the knolwedge that he/she would be furloughed this fall. (SAAB)

Fodder that as you will. Losing the UAL flying if/when they close doors, will hurt at first.

My Understanding from the Memo, is that a Legal move is only one which represents a move 'UP'. Beech FO may bid FO in SAAB or Q, as well as any CA slots. SAAB Fo may bid Q FO. Q FO Can't go 'up', so no movement except in the case of base closing or emergency need, a Q fo can only move to a diffrent aircraft with an upgrade. You may upgrade into any aircraft you like though, from any FO position.
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I know there's a lot of uncertainty and rumors right now but are furloughs really likely at Colgan this fall?
 
TUCKnTRUCK said:
Lots of MHT FO's put off upgrade untill they can hold it again as a CA. MHT is the hardest base to get in the 9L system. I think on average there is like 1 new crewmember in MHT a year. Seems like most DW grads at colgan want MHT

Heard a strange rumor today that an ex colgan pilot at Gemini was offered a "Summer" position with the knolwedge that he/she would be furloughed this fall. (SAAB)

Fodder that as you will. Losing the UAL flying if/when they close doors, will hurt at first.

My Understanding from the Memo, is that a Legal move is only one which represents a move 'UP'. Beech FO may bid FO in SAAB or Q, as well as any CA slots. SAAB Fo may bid Q FO. Q FO Can't go 'up', so no movement except in the case of base closing or emergency need, a Q fo can only move to a diffrent aircraft with an upgrade. You may upgrade into any aircraft you like though, from any FO position.
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I wonder if some of this flying can be transitioned to another codeshare. Isn't a good deal of the United Express flying EAS?
 
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