Whats funny is that in the USAF, the leather jacket is just for looks, it's not allowed to be worn while flying like it was in the old days.
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Whats funny is that in the USAF, the leather jacket is just for looks, it's not allowed to be worn while flying like it was in the old days.
surreal1221
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Alright. Enough of this ridiculousness.
We all know that we should be wearing olive drab flight suits.
Settled.
We all know that we should be wearing olive drab flight suits.
Settled.
Firebird2XC
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True. Wait- so you're saying they wear it because it looks good- and for tradition? Who would do that?
True. Wait- so you're saying they wear it because it looks good- and for tradition? Who would do that?
It started out as a bribe to keep guys in the AF from leaving, back in the early 90s. Now, everyone and their mom wears one....such as missileers, etc.
SpiraMirabilis
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While we're on the subject of creative anachronisms.... lets just say the sight of a CBP agent getting into a Super Cub (Alpine, TX) while strapped with a glock brought to mind images of this:
We still have some in the system, though they're going away soon.
Firebird2XC
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a different thread entirely. Todd thinks we're all wrong there, too.
Do freight and 135 pilots even wearing uniforms?
I dated a freight pilot who claimed she stripped down naked in flight on occasion. Is that 'professional'?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a different thread entirely. Todd thinks we're all wrong there, too.
Do freight and 135 pilots even wearing uniforms?
I dated a freight pilot who claimed she stripped down naked in flight on occasion. Is that 'professional'?
Some do some don't.
Nearly all freight chicks I met batted for the other team.
Now that I'm in the corporate flight world I would say maybe 5% where a uniform.
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
I dated a freight pilot who claimed she stripped down naked in flight on occasion. Is that 'professional'?
Depends, you have to ask yourself...Is She:
Hot? - Full of win
Not Hot? - Highly unprofessional and she should be reported to the nearest FSDO.
surreal1221
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In which case, a highly obese FAA ASI will continually line check the lady for the sole purpose of getting some...something...since his divorce 15 years ago.
KLB
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a different thread entirely. Todd thinks we're all wrong there, too.
Do freight and 135 pilots even wearing uniforms?
I dated a freight pilot who claimed she stripped down naked in flight on occasion. Is that 'professional'?
It's single pilot. So no one would know. Although I doubt she did that. She just knew if she said something like that it would make your "ears" perk up a bit.
Manipulation at it's finest.
I fly 135 and 91K, we wear a white long sleeve dress shirt and tie for some customers/owners, company golf shirt for others, depending on their preferences. I wore a uniform at my last charter job. Didn't care for it, you look pretty silly walking into Applebee's at lunch wearing a uniform. I eventually started packing a golf shirt to change into on day trips. But it paid the bills.
As for coats, we have company provided 3 in 1 jackets. Fleece jacket zips into an outer shell.
Hernandezcfi
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Leather Jacket vs Trenchcoat and Hat
We all know that there is a direct correlation between how we dress and how we are percieved. This is fact. That being said, this is a business and we are professionals doing business so we should dress like grown men and women doing business and taking it seriously!
How we are percieved when we walk up to the ticket counter depends on who is looking. If a business passenger (our bread and butter) is looking and you walk up in a leather jacket, the impression you might leave is that of someone who knows how to do barrel rolls!
On the other hand, if you walk up in the coat and hat, you might leave the impression of a mature, competent professional. The hat in particular has a psycological effect on people. What we wear also shows how we feel about our self and how we feel about what we are doing!
If you want to look cool to the scateboard toting passengers, wear a leather jacket. If you want to look like a serious business man handling his business, wear a coat over your blazer. Throw in a long sleeve shirt and a tie that takes a little effort to put on while you are at it for extra points. If you really want to convey your authority and show you mean business, (Captains in particular) wear your hat too. They may not like you for being late, but they will respect you.
Those who don't agree I recommend you stop by your local Mens Warehouse or a good boutique (I recommend Austin Burke in the Miami Garment District) and get some good advice on how professional men dress!
We all know that there is a direct correlation between how we dress and how we are percieved. This is fact. That being said, this is a business and we are professionals doing business so we should dress like grown men and women doing business and taking it seriously!
How we are percieved when we walk up to the ticket counter depends on who is looking. If a business passenger (our bread and butter) is looking and you walk up in a leather jacket, the impression you might leave is that of someone who knows how to do barrel rolls!
On the other hand, if you walk up in the coat and hat, you might leave the impression of a mature, competent professional. The hat in particular has a psycological effect on people. What we wear also shows how we feel about our self and how we feel about what we are doing!
If you want to look cool to the scateboard toting passengers, wear a leather jacket. If you want to look like a serious business man handling his business, wear a coat over your blazer. Throw in a long sleeve shirt and a tie that takes a little effort to put on while you are at it for extra points. If you really want to convey your authority and show you mean business, (Captains in particular) wear your hat too. They may not like you for being late, but they will respect you.
Those who don't agree I recommend you stop by your local Mens Warehouse or a good boutique (I recommend Austin Burke in the Miami Garment District) and get some good advice on how professional men dress!
zmiller4
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You think the long sleeve shirt looks more professional? Really? I think the long sleeve with epaulets looks incredibly goofy.
I can never understand why this argument keeps popping up. There's a lot of components to conducting yourself in a professional, but when it comes to appearance it means dressing/grooming in according with your company's policies. That's it.
I think there's overdoing the whole thing too.
Hat? Not really necessary, and anyways one isn't to be wearing hats indoors at all, so pilots doing that in the terminal is (as I was brought up) shouldn't be done, if I were king. But a nice long sleeve/tie is professional enough, conservative hair, etc, is IMO enough without having to go overboard with requiring a blazer or overcoat (ie- wear if desired, but not necessarily required). Again, all if I were king for a day.
There's dressing like an office business professional, but that has to be balanced with practicality of the pilot job IMHO.
Hernandezcfi
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Agreed...You wouldn't dress like I described in the summer. As far as practicality, I never had a problem removing my blazer and coat at the same time and hanging it up behind my seat and that's in the SAAB 340.
I think there are some cultural differences when it comes to attire. For example, some people think it's ok to wear flip flops when traveling. The only time I wear flip flops is when I'm chilling on my porch grilling up some grub. I would not be caught dead in an airport in my Flip-flops! This may be my preference simply because I grew up in a time and place where I observed people dress in suits just to hang out in bars and social clubs. (1980's Bensonhurst Brooklyn) I was taught to dress for sucess and you get respect.
Oh yeah and the hat indoor thing that is correct, you don't wear hats indoors however, it's ok to put your hat on if you are about to step outside. It's not a big deal in my opinion.
Firebird2XC
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This one was a rare one then. I swear, I oughta buy lottery tickets someday.
She was and likely still is redonkulously hot. A wee bit high strung for me though, and we didn't last. I hear she's doing quite well for herself. For a gal that could trade on her looks, I don't think she ever did.
It's single pilot. So no one would know. Although I doubt she did that. She just knew if she said something like that it would make your "ears" perk up a bit.
Manipulation at it's finest.
I didn't mind her 'handling' me at all. Women have their tricks, and they're not all nefarious in nature. Lovely lady, and sweet as sugar. Just lived her life at a pace I found a little too rapid.
I don't even want to know what you single-pilot box-bringers do to entertain yourself en route. Freight pilots are a strange, mysterious sort that I do not understand and treat like a hungry tiger.
You're all nuts, the lot of ya. :beer:
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
To be honest when I see short sleeve pilots wearing a tie I think of this:
Awesome! FTW!!