Cirrus SR-20 pilot needed in Atlanta

mtsu_av8er said:
I need to send in a resume with instructions on how to kiss my big black one.

$20,000 for a full-time position? Where are they getting the free crack?
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I don't agree, $20k for an entry level flying gig is better than what some other 135 companies are paying.

I wouldn't take anything less than $60,000/yr to fly a non-air conditioned, non-radar equipped 210 around the south personally. But that's why you are doing your job, and I am doing mine.
 
wheelsup said:
I wouldn't take anything less than $60,000/yr to fly a non-air conditioned, non-radar equipped 210 around the south personally. But that's why you are doing your job, and I am doing mine.
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pwn3d!11111
 
aschwimmer said:
mtsu av8er, I don't understand why you would post that. If you want to continue flight instructing and making 10 thousand a year that is your choice.
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You're right, it is a choice. Fortunately, some of us refuse to continue this brainless cycle of low pay. Just because the pay is marginally closer to the poverty level doesn't make it a better choice.

Besides, if you're making 10k as a flight instructor, you're seriously lacking or you're selling yourself short.
 
gtpilot said:
You're right, it is a choice. Fortunately, some of us refuse to continue this brainless cycle of low pay.
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First, my post wasn't a jab at freight pilots. It does however illustrate the fact that with every job there are trade offs. For the most part, job pay is based off of supply/demand and they will only pay just enough* to get qualified people into those seats. This is the main reason for unions IMO - to raise the pay and keep it higher than what would normally be driven by a market economy.

If you would like to hold out for that 'golden carrot' job you will be waiting a long time. Not to mention the fact that the 'golden carrot' jobs generally require a bit more experience flying in jobs that pay substandard wages at first, would you not agree?

* EDIT: compensation can come in the form of flight time as well as $$ at some levels in out "career"
 
wheelsup said:
First, my post wasn't a jab at freight pilots. It does however illustrate the fact that with every job there are trade offs.

* EDIT: compensation can come in the form of flight time as well as $$ at some levels in out "career"
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Agreed!
 
Current salary at Youth Detention Center $27,850 per year; Cirrus Pilot, $20,000 per year; cost for renting aircraft at flight school $120.00 per hour, 66 hour of flight time $7,920. Therefore, if I fly at least 66 hour a year that would equal my $27,850 per year at the YDC and I don't have to be deal with my little darlings. When can I start, PLEASE!!!!!!!
 
rpatte1637 said:
Current salary at Youth Detention Center $27,850 per year; Cirrus Pilot, $20,000 per year; cost for renting aircraft at flight school $120.00 per hour, 66 hour of flight time $7,920. Therefore, if I fly at least 66 hour a year that would equal my $27,850 per year at the YDC and I don't have to be deal with my little darlings. When can I start, PLEASE!!!!!!!
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your emath sucks, taco.

7920 =/ (DOES NOT EQUAL) 27850

forf lfyer is goin to bed
 
wheelsup said:
I don't agree, $20k for an entry level flying gig is better than what some other 135 companies are paying.
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It's better than what some 135 companies are paying - true! However, is it really an entry level gig? A Cirrus? HArdly your Dad's 172. And we're talking fulltime here. I've never worked fulltime ANYTHING for $20,000/year. If it's weekend flying, and time for me to do some other stuff, groovy. However, if this is how I have to put food on the table? No, Brother.

I wouldn't take anything less than $60,000/yr to fly a non-air conditioned, non-radar equipped 210 around the south personally. But that's why you are doing your job, and I am doing mine.
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But I don't fly around int he south! ;)

Besides, I don't need stator vanes and air conditioning to remind me that I'm a pilot! ;)

Whatever the case may be, you work harder than I do. I guarantee you that! So, take your cash! I'll take the easy days!
 
gtpilot said:
Fortunately, some of us refuse to continue this brainless cycle of low pay.
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Ah-ha!!! Scotch or brandy? :)

Besides, if you're making 10k as a flight instructor, you're seriously lacking or you're selling yourself short.
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That's it right there. I didn't even make $10,000 my first year as a CFI!!!
 
I don't understand why some complain about low pay on this forum. Every pilot before you had to do it, and why should it magically change for you? The only shortcuts to become a pilot are PFJ and you will be black listed the rest of there careers. If you want to be a pilot for you career it takes two things, hardwork and scarfice. If you are not willing to do these two things like all the rest of us I suggest a new career.
 
aschwimmer said:
I don't understand why some complain about low pay on this forum. Every pilot before you had to do it, and why should it magically change for you? The only shortcuts to become a pilot are PFJ and you will be black listed the rest of there careers. If you want to be a pilot for you career it takes two things, hardwork and scarfice. If you are not willing to do these two things like all the rest of us I suggest a new career.
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I'm not advocating shortcuts or PFJs - I work hard, maintain a good reputation and I get paid well for it, even at entry level. No magic to it!

So....how does one 'scarfice'? :D Need more scotch! :nana2:
 
Why is there always an exception to how low long entry level aviation pay is compared to other fields? I was making more money as a janitor to start.
 
scoobs said:
Why is there always an exception to how low long entry level aviation pay is compared to other fields? I was making more money as a janitor to start.
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nobody wants to be a janitor.

my gf has a 4-year degree in communications and started @ $20k and now is at $25k making ads for a national organization. these "magic" jobs making $50k+ to start aren't out there, fellas. And if they are, it's because no one else wants to do them, or they are government jobs that pay 3x what they would in the private sector.
 
mtsu_av8er said:
But I don't fly around int he south! ;)

Besides, I don't need stator vanes and air conditioning to remind me that I'm a pilot! ;)

Whatever the case may be, you work harder than I do. I guarantee you that! So, take your cash! I'll take the easy days!
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I don't think I ever said anything about you not being a 'pilot'. What I said was that you work in a much more hostile (IMO) environment than I do having ac and a chime to get me more diet coke and a cup of ice.

And I honestly think you folks work more than we do, hence the better pay. Like I said, there are tradeoffs to everything.

Easy days? LOL. The hardest thing about my job is making sure the pay people followed the contract to pay me correctly :).
 
aschwimmer said:
I don't understand why some complain about low pay on this forum.
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Because we like eating meat with our dinner on a regular basis.

Every pilot before you had to do it, and why should it magically change for you?
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You're talking absolutel nonsense. Are you saying that I shouldn't deserve to make a decent living?

The only shortcuts to become a pilot are PFJ and you will be black listed the rest of there careers. If you want to be a pilot for you career it takes two things, hardwork and scarfice. If you are not willing to do these two things like all the rest of us I suggest a new career.
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Where are you in your career, Bud? Some of us are already "pilots for our careers", as you eloquently put it. Are you saying that you can't work hard, sacrifice, and make a decent wage?

Sounds to me like you're trying to justify the crappy pay to yourself.
 
wheelsup said:
Easy days? LOL. The hardest thing about my job is making sure the pay people followed the contract to pay me correctly :).
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What's the hardest thing about mine? I fly an airplane! Nothing hard about it. In fact, I enjoy it - it's fun!! It's my passion!!!!

So, I load the airplane in the morning, and unload it after the flight. Then I get to fly it!

I have no Passengers, I don't deal with congested airports, and I don't have to program an FMS. ATC knows me by name, and I don't have to break out charts to navigate.

Weather? It's not as bad as people think. I avoid Thunderstorms the same way that you do. I see 'em, and I go around 'em. If I can't see 'em, I can't go - OPSPEC doesn't allow me to fly in the vicinity of T-Storms unless the flight can be conducted visually!

No, my job isn't that hard. I'm on the road less, too!
 
MTSU av8er, I co pilot a Westwind. I don't sit in this forum and brag about it, I simply was helping a buddy out trying to find a new pilot. I don't understand why you complain so much, there not going to change pay scales just because you complain. So next time you ask "Where are you in you career, Bud?" you better come with more than being a 31 year old flight instuctor with a 1000 hours of that sweet sweet 172 time.
 
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