Challenger Truckee

KLB said:
Yeah. That's your operator. I have a rental car and choose my own hotels. There are also some 3 pilot accounts where the schedule is constant. Maybe there may adjustments for vacations. But that's about it.
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I don’t want a constant schedule. I want to get a better schedule for every year of service. The guy opposite me has like 30 years flying for the program and still works 2 weeks at a time of night shift.
 
Roger Roger said:
I don’t want a constant schedule. I want to get a better schedule for every year of service. The guy opposite me has like 30 years flying for the program and still works 2 weeks at a time of night shift.
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Oh. I gotcha. There is certainly no seniority. But I only fly about 350hrs a year and and in average a few days or less a week.
 
How many corpies are there that regret going to the big 6? I doubt it would be much.

Every ex-Corpie I’ve flown with have spoken highly of their move to this airline. The #1 complaint, their off time here (day off) actually being guaranteed off here.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Well, right now, basically none of that is a thing.
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It isn't? Because it was for the guys I know who joined a regional in the last year and a half.

Granted, they did that dance for less than a year before bouncing to a real airline, but that's a pretty temporary state of affairs.
 
KLB said:
. I am getting tired of hearing. "Man you are young. You should go to the airlines" when I am perfectly fine doing the flyinh that I'm doing and haven't complained to anyone about it.
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That is generally people who think aviation is only 121 flying. And not realizing there are a good number of lucrative aviation jobs out there, for everyone’s flavor, that have nothing to do with 121.
 
MikeD said:
That is generally people who think aviation is only 121 flying. And not realizing there are a good number of lucrative aviation jobs out there, for everyone’s flavor, that have nothing to do with 121.
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Oh what, and then have to deal with the “when you gonna become a commercial pilot” question? No thank you! ;)
 
Having spent 12 years flying 91/135 and now 6+ years flying 121 I see both sides pretty clearly. I've heard about, but I've never seen a unicorn corporate job: basically all the good parts of 121 without the bad parts and some fun perks as well. I have a feeling that many of these jobs are really not quite as good as they sound. Basically the pilots that work there are either ignorant of what they could be experiencing as a 121 pilot or they make their job sound better than it is.

All that being said I'd rather work at a nice part 91 job than as a Wally Mart greeter. At this point in life I can live off the mtb coaching and real estate income I'm developing. I'm not really good at anything else.

During the very start of the pandemic I certainly fired off a few resumes to corporate operators. Since I was basically being threatened with a furlough on the daily...
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
How many corpies are there that regret going to the big 6? I doubt it would be much.

Every ex-Corpie I’ve flown with have spoken highly of their move to this airline. The #1 complaint, their off time here (day off) actually being guaranteed off here.
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I know I give you a lot of crap that’s not always kind, but I really hope you’ll take this as constructive criticism.

You had a *really* unique path to a major. Having your first paid hour of PIC be in a 737 is pretty remarkable. I think most of us would probably think “whoa, that’s pretty cool”….

…except for the way you come across here and on other forums. You consistently criticize entire groups of pilots (and people!), when the fact is that your professional aviation experience is really limited. You criticize “corporate aviation”—something that you’ve never done (and actually never really been qualified for until you started accumulating 121 PIC time). How would you have any clue what the average corporate job is like? And beyond that, you don’t seem to grasp that the reason “corporate aviation” can range from incredibly professional to pretty fly by night is intentional and built into the FAR’s—they’re not common carriers, and as such they get more leeway.

If you showed a bit of humility, recognized that the position you’re in required a whole lot of luck, and stopped making blanket snarky characterizations of entire pilot groups, you’d probably have a much better time on here.
 
All my corporate comments are simply based on the recent accidents. I’ve even pointed out 121 getting scary, in the green on green incidents that have happened (several of those now). I’m somewhat equal opportunity when it comes to this kinda stuff. And a lot of what I say is in jest, but that kinda thing is missed by some here.


121 is all luck and timing, both of which you really can’t control. At all.
 
BobDDuck said:
You need at least 8000 pilots to be a "big" carrier.

Sorry. You don't qualify. It's just the Big 4.
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Sorry, legacy carriers then. AA, DL, UA, AS, and HAL. By definition of a legacy carrier.


I’ve never heard a 8,000 pilot cut off distinction before?

Regardless, I think the point still stands. Doubtful you’d find many ex-Corporate guys at these shops who regret their move.
 
Roger Roger said:
I don’t want a constant schedule. I want to get a better schedule for every year of service. The guy opposite me has like 30 years flying for the program and still works 2 weeks at a time of night shift.
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How many nights a week does he fly? If it was a couple times a week that would be a good deal. I'm assuming the night guys work less.
 
DE727UPS said:
How many nights a week does he fly? If it was a couple times a week that would be a good deal. I'm assuming the night guys work less.
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You assume wrong. I •d myself out and worked a 4 week stretch of nights and I flew almost every night. Pretty typical in summer, but even winter isn’t really that slow anymore.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Sorry, legacy carriers then. AA, DL, UA, AS, and HAL. By definition of a legacy carrier.


I’ve never heard a 8,000 pilot cut off distinction before?

Regardless, I think the point still stands. Doubtful you’d find many ex-Corporate guys at these shops who regret their move.
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Out of curiosity, anyone know what the term "legacy" actually means? Is it a reference to pre- vs post-deregulation carriers? Pre- / Post-CAB? Or something else?
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
Having spent 12 years flying 91/135 and now 6+ years flying 121 I see both sides pretty clearly. I've heard about, but I've never seen a unicorn corporate job: basically all the good parts of 121 without the bad parts and some fun perks as well. I have a feeling that many of these jobs are really not quite as good as they sound. Basically the pilots that work there are either ignorant of what they could be experiencing as a 121 pilot or they make their job sound better than it is.

All that being said I'd rather work at a nice part 91 job than as a Wally Mart greeter. At this point in life I can live off the mtb coaching and real estate income I'm developing. I'm not really good at anything else.

During the very start of the pandemic I certainly fired off a few resumes to corporate operators. Since I was basically being threatened with a furlough on the daily...
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There are some really good ones out there. I've seen them. But to be fair, the are ebb and flow just like all other parts of the industry. All corporate flight departments are one newly appointed chief pilot (who is a terrible human being, trying to be a company kiss butt, and bad at their job) from turning a unicorn into a killer zombie. It's definitely isn't all sunshine and pixie dust as you know.

It's interesting what some pilots considered good and tolerable workinh conditions compared to others. There are some lead pilots out there that would do a 6 day layover at Teterboro, stay at the airport Hilton, with no rental car, get their breakfast coupon, eat those hotel powdered eggs, save something from the buffet for lunch, down to hotel restaurant for dinner, and never leave the hotel property.

I usually stay on the Hudson if not in the city, go run the river ever morning, go on an entire foodie exploration, take the ferry in and out of the city, or go hiking somewhere cool in upstate.

There are some individuals that are hell bent on making the gig miserable, which makes them miserable for having a miserable gig, and they project that misery on their coworkers and the people around them.
 
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