Challenger Truckee
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Roger Roger
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Idk bout lights but 20 is awful tight for a Chally at 6000’ elevation.
T/O w/FSII
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LENGTH. The caption is wrong.
Roger Roger
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Guess we’ll find out in 12-18 months
Roger Roger
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A little google searching shows that the 11 approach is often not used due to conflicts with Sacramento and Reno traffic flows. No idea if that was the case here.
Roger Roger
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Are there aviation FB groups that aren’t? I guess @ChasenSFO mismatch group. That one was cool.
Conrad
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This is eerily similar to the Lear 35 crash a TEB. Another circling approach gone wrong.
Autothrust Blue
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That sounds like “not the pilot’s problem.”
Autothrust Blue
Welcome aboard the Washington State Ferries
It still is. It is a wonderful source for deviant content.
Autothrust Blue
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It might take 12-18 months, but…well.
JustinS
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I find that a bit suprising. The CRJ-200 was category D by 2 knots at max landing weight. I would think the Challenger would be category C.
As it relates to maneuvering I’ve never flown the challenger, but the CRJ-200 handled well as long as you flew appropriate speeds and respected bank angles that were protected for said speeds. So unfortunately IF it was a stall spin scenario they either got slow and/or overbanked. Sounds similar to the Learjet accident that happened in TEB a while back…
Jimmy_Norton
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It is Cat D. But if you're trying to get in somewhere with no Cat D approaches, its Cat C, and if you argue, you're being negative and you don't want the operation to succeed. Or something like that.....
KLB
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It's a whole mess over there right now.
KLB
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To figure out who NOT to ever fly with!
Boris Badenov
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The 601 is definitely D. That's about the only thing I remember but it certainly made an impression.
trafficinsight
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Agree, I wouldn't circle if I could help it but the times I did circle its not like it was a handful or anything.... It drove around quite nicely with your hands on the yoke.
ChasenSFO
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Damn, the F/O sounded like a cool dude. Really sucks what happened to them.
Yeah, and we get constant people in the group mad that we let it run like 4chan getting upset that people aren't following the guidelines like gospel. @JustinS bringing me into that group when it started out has been an interesting social experiment. When the admins make it clear you can do whatever you want, some people like it, some people DEMAND order and decorum and will repeatedly report the admins themselves (you know, to the admins..) and post long-winded rants about how this page has not followed community guidelines and they have NO CHOICE but to leave. I guess you group together any number of people and you'll get a portion of "that kind". Now, the real thing to avoid is a group that those kinds flock to, probably self-important pages where members feel a sense of prestige from following the rules and enforcing the guidelines like internet police.
That's why when people complain about a few problem members derailing JC all the time, I really think that when any forum of any subject matter gets to be as large as JC, there is no avoiding that unless you just ban people frequently.
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Admittedly, my experience is only the 601 as well. But here is what the FSI manual says:
That said, this wasn't technically a circling approach since they were cleared for the visual approach, no?