TurdBird
Well-Known Member
Whoa! Hold up a minute.
1.) I will not be addressed as the LEO. You can call me King.
2.) If what I said was accurate? How dare you insult me!
If I file a complaint against you, will you be the one to receive it?
Can I still get hired?
- Thread starter sweber1987
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Whoa! Hold up a minute.
1.) I will not be addressed as the LEO. You can call me King.
2.) If what I said was accurate? How dare you insult me!
If I file a complaint against you, will you be the one to receive it?
bdhill1979
Gone West
Ya Dough, thems fightin' words, and he is way better armed than even I am.Whoa! Hold up a minute.
1.) I will not be addressed as the LEO. You can call me King.
2.) If what I said was accurate? How dare you insult me!
If I file a complaint against you, will you be the one to recieve it?
Whoa! Hold up a minute.
1.) I will not be addressed as the LEO. You can call me King.
2.) If what I said was accurate? How dare you insult me!
If I file a complaint against you, will you be the one to receive it?
Ooh, yeah, that came out wrong didn't it! Hey, tell one of the other moderators to give me a yellow or a red card and we'll call it even, mm'kay?
TurdBird
Well-Known Member
Ooh, yeah, that came out wrong didn't it! Hey, tell one of the other moderators to give me a yellow or a red card and we'll call it even, mm'kay?
I'll think about it. Don't get your hopes up. A reminder about how cool, grand, incredible, and great I am can go a long way right about now for ya. You catch'n my drift?
TurdBird
Well-Known Member
I guess there goes any chance of driving I-95 unscathed, huh?
How's the view from the jumpseat?
I think we could work something out.
can you make me a whopper with cheeeeezzzzeeee pleeeeaaasseeee? :nana2:
TurdBird
Well-Known Member
Ya Dough, thems fightin' words, and he is way better armed than even I am.
Hahahahah :laff:
TurdBird
Well-Known Member
:banghead: I guess I left the door open for that one!
Douglas
Old School KSUX
Really? You are comparing a disorderly conduct conviction to all of that?
One of these things doesn't belong...
I had four friends that wrote "threats" on a white board in band when class got out early. Most were funny or lyrics. Post columbine, so they were suspended (almost expelled) the police were notified, but didn't do anything. Guess why they didn't do anything.
These four men now
two are post college professionals with families.
one is still sitting on the bottom of the ocean in a Navy sub.
the other I have lost contact with.
I would trust everyone of them to make sound decisions.
heck, I didn't join them because I was too busy talking to a cute tenor saxophonist.
And honestly, to all posters -
I have only a few posts to my name on this forum, but the way some of you talk to each other is a shame.
You may be tough in real life or maybe just behind a keyboard, but key strokes come cheap. Aviation is a small world and I hope everybody remembers that.
The original poster asked a serious question and deserves a serious answer (which many did give). And serious poster, try not to flame back; it will get you nowhere.
Those who have questions should be able to ask them without worries of being talked down to or ridiculed, by anybody.
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
Not all airlines require a SIDA badge.... just ask Republic/Chautauqua/ShuttleAmerica peeps in ATL. Apparantly the company doesn't allow anyone to have SIDA badges because they were spending too much with the turn-over rate of the FAs...
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
I like the way you SJI guys get your SIDA. I won't go into it here but suffice it to say it's neeto!
I agree 100%. Sometimes reading threads here really makes me do th ol' forehead slap.
If I were an interviewer (and all interviewers should be like this, imo), my only job when interviewing you is to determine if you are the right person for the job. For me to throw you out because your shirt is green, or some other dumb reason would be wrong, and very unprofessional of me.
If you have skeletons in your closet, who am I to judge? We all have skeletons in our closet to some extent. The problem is when the factors that lead up to those skeletons being there are still present in the applicant. In order for someone to be capable of making threats, you have to be an unbalanced person. If you're still an unbalanced person (which, as interviewer is my job to figure out), then you won't get the job, because in my opinion, you have to be a confident, balanced person to be a good PIC. If you've moved on, and are a better person now, then I don't see why it would matter. Someone mentioned earlier that it might create a paperwork problem getting a security clearance, but other than that, I don't at all think that something in your past should automatically disqualify you from being a good pilot.
What bothers me is the perception people on this forum have on what an interviewer should be using to discriminate applicants. It worries me thinking there are people out there that seem to have such empty understandings of what makes a good pilot. Over the months reading these forums, I've heard some really discouraging things.
The difference is that we're talking aviation in the post-9/11 world.
The questioner will have problems obtaining a medical because of a diagnosed mental issue.
If that's overcome, then the questioner may have problems passing the background check.
Perhaps I'm a big anus, but if a guy I was interviewing to babysit for me made a threat to a school the year previous, it would be a very short interview. That's judgmental, perhaps very un Christian-like of me, but that's the real world we live in.
I could throw a pat of butter on it and spread a nice sweet layer of Mrs Butterworths on the issue but I'd be doing him a grand disservice by doing so.
On even obtaining a medical:
What the user stated:
What a Senior AME says:
Thread #1
Thread #2
Remember, no medical, no flying job. How this is all going to play in another field, I have no idea. How we *feel* about something and "how it be" aren't necessarily in sync.
The questioner will have problems obtaining a medical because of a diagnosed mental issue.
If that's overcome, then the questioner may have problems passing the background check.
Perhaps I'm a big anus, but if a guy I was interviewing to babysit for me made a threat to a school the year previous, it would be a very short interview. That's judgmental, perhaps very un Christian-like of me, but that's the real world we live in.
I could throw a pat of butter on it and spread a nice sweet layer of Mrs Butterworths on the issue but I'd be doing him a grand disservice by doing so.
On even obtaining a medical:
What the user stated:
What a Senior AME says:
Thread #1
Thread #2
Remember, no medical, no flying job. How this is all going to play in another field, I have no idea. How we *feel* about something and "how it be" aren't necessarily in sync.
Stomp16
You mean Shennanigans?!?!
I have just read this thread and it amazes me what some people say and do.
Sweber1987, even if the Feds, interviewer or whoever wants to give you the benefit-of-the-doubt of being just a kid when you made the threat, there's a very big stigma here in the states about shooting schools up. If you don't know about it already, google "school shootings", specifically Columbine, Colorado. There was/is a huge problem with "kids" shooting up schools or even just threating to do it. If it comes out at all about your conviction, you're dead in the water. It's a topic that ranks very high up on officials "not cool" list. Aviation is hard enough to even get a foot in the door that I couldn't even imagine trying to do it with that kind of history.
I and most everyone else on this forum wish you the best and hope that you can get the help you need, but it doesn't seem as though aviation would be a possible career for you.
Sweber1987, even if the Feds, interviewer or whoever wants to give you the benefit-of-the-doubt of being just a kid when you made the threat, there's a very big stigma here in the states about shooting schools up. If you don't know about it already, google "school shootings", specifically Columbine, Colorado. There was/is a huge problem with "kids" shooting up schools or even just threating to do it. If it comes out at all about your conviction, you're dead in the water. It's a topic that ranks very high up on officials "not cool" list. Aviation is hard enough to even get a foot in the door that I couldn't even imagine trying to do it with that kind of history.
I and most everyone else on this forum wish you the best and hope that you can get the help you need, but it doesn't seem as though aviation would be a possible career for you.
Whether or not the pilot would likely get the job is irrelevant to my point. There are people in this thread who are saying things like "I would never not want someone who did what you did in my cockpit". Which is very disconcerning.
Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back up this claim?
jhugz
Well-Known Member
Stomp16
You mean Shennanigans?!?!
Well, good point. No I don't. Let's play what if (strictly your opinion).......
Butt, you're the head of a flight department in charge of interviewing and hiring. You see that the box is checked about prior convictions and you inquire about it. Yadda yadda yadda "shoot up a school" yadda yadda yadda.
Are you honestly going to give this guy a chance when there are THOUSANDS of qualified pilots out there without a conviction such as this? Honestly?