Thanks for the tip.I'm sorry you feel pressured to fly un-airworthy airplanes every day.
Sounds like it's time to maybe speak with mx?
-mini
Thanks for the tip.I'm sorry you feel pressured to fly un-airworthy airplanes every day.
Sounds like it's time to maybe speak with mx?
-mini
...someone who wrote up an airplane because they didn't know how to work the equipment.
Thats great and all but flying around a 30 year old jet using your rational I could ground an airplane everyday.
Much easier said than done.
If it can't be MEL'd then the plane has to be grounded, it isn't airworthy.
You'd really have a problem with that if you were a chief pilot? Sure glad you aren't my chief pilot. If you don't want planes grounded with a broken CHT gage, figure out how to get the CHT on the MEL.
FWIW, I've never heard of anything like that happening here. Not saying it doesn't or hasn't, but I haven't heard about it. I've grounded plenty of airplanes for "little" stuff. If it ain't airworthy, it ain't airworthy. The fed that ramps you and starts some certificate action against you for flying an un-airworthy aircraft won't care that it's just a "little thing".
I guess I value my certificates more than some.
I'm going to guess that it ended up not being a big deal. If it was, I've been hanging out since Wednesday and could be in Dayton in...30 minutes(?) with a replacement airplane. There are others here as well, even earlier in the week.
-mini
You laugh but half the time the Radar's are written up it's because its a new hire that doesn't have a clue how to use it.Ouch.
-mini
Okay, seriously, was this at the end of the day? Was there another plane there he could swap for?
If I were a chief pilot and someone wanted to ground an airplane somewhere because of a CHT gauge, I think I would have a little talk with him too.
You laugh but half the time the Radar's are written up it's because its a new hire that doesn't have a clue how to use it.
I dunno man - as a product of their training program I'll admit the radar instruction is a little basic, but they give you the info you need to know. They use that famous radar expert guy (forgot his name) as a primary source. I'm no genius and I managed to work the radar well enough.Probably has more to do with the training program (ours is equally as bad in that area) than the new hire.
I don't understand this logic. As a CP, I'm constantly mixing it up with our maintenance folks who are trying to find a way around the MEL. Fix it dammit! If the pilot thinks the aircraft isn't safe then the CP should back him up 100%. Just my 2 cents.Who cares? The airplane was broken. Period. End of story.
Then I hope you never become a CP. If an airplane is broken, you write it up. Period. If it's deferrable, then it's an issue of just a bit of paperwork. If it's not deferrable, then it shouldn't be flying. This really isn't hard to understand.
I hear ya - the only thing that made me know to pay attention were the discussions about it on JC.Yeah we had Archie's video too, but I'll be honest I doubt anyone actually adsorbed it. I know I didn't. Too much other stuff to think about at that time, in addition to it being shown in a dim room after lunch...It kinda got pushed into the "nice to know" column vs. the "need to know" column .
I have never ever seen our management pressure pilots into anything. Infact many of the guys that have been here for a few years think they are too conservative. The new CEO will have NO say on how we fly every night.
Once you guys get out of the airlines you'll see it's a different atmosphere.
So PCL are you seriously going to writup a decal that has been smeared badly by wear and tear and ground the airplane....YGTBKM