Big brother is watching you.

How about "Thanks overbearing Federal Government".
Bush isn't the only to blame for this.

No of course not, I could name the countless members of his administration that ushered in the mentality of our current police state. . .but that'd be one hell of a list and I certainly don't have the time, nor the patience to contain my anger and frustration related to my wasted time spent protecting our constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic only to watch the administration I worked for urinate all over it.

But yes, he isn't the ONLY one to blame. But why play the "Blame Game."

Nevertheless, the department was not a position in the executive until Bush's administration. It is a creation of his administration and he is the captain of that ship, thus he deserves the credit for generating the ridiculous position.

Arent you excited that Obama is doing nothing but increasing the DHS funding?

Oh I'm thrilled. . .:sarcasm:
 
you brought it up...

Actually, no I didn't.

You see any hints of "blame" in my initial post?

The first use of the word blame was by Baj.

What I brought up was that the Department of Homeland Security is a creation of the Bush 00-08 administration, and will be one of his lasting legacies. Nothing more.
 
I wonder how much drugs are shipped next day air?

A lot.

I was flying out of CA a few weeks back and one of our pilots who flys out of northern CA told me that the DEA routinely screens the freight coming off his plane. He said the find pot shipped via UPS pretty often.
 
Was it out at IXD? Small world man, small world

Yep. Last summer the weekend the EAA had the war bird fly-in with the B-17. I was also nervous for a few minutes because I kind of know my student... but how well do you really know them? I will say even the agents thought it was kind of silly to check our airplane as the normal traffickers do not file IFR.
 
Yep. Last summer the weekend the EAA had the war bird fly-in with the B-17. I was also nervous for a few minutes because I kind of know my student... but how well do you really know them? I will say even the agents thought it was kind of silly to check our airplane as the normal traffickers do not file IFR.

Haha, yeah man, that was the weekend. I was shocked at first, then when I went in and told the boss man, he was like "the who are on our ramp? who? why?"
 
DEA and CBP used to meet us on the ramp in BQN/SJU quite frequently... I appreciate the job they are doing but they treated us like dirt... in fact its one of the few times in my life where someone has threatened me with bodily harm to get their way.... as such I have little or no respect for them.
 
DEA and CBP used to meet us on the ramp in BQN/SJU quite frequently... I appreciate the job they are doing but they treated us like dirt... in fact its one of the few times in my life where someone has threatened me with bodily harm to get their way.... as such I have little or no respect for them.

I was treated with respect when it happened to me.
 
Guess I'd better go get the "Pro-Life" and "I love Jesus" bumper stickers off the ole 310 in case I fly out of the country...they might try to shoot me down thinkin I'm on of those "crazy conservative terrorist"...

Janet N...go pound sand...

<end rant>
 
I'd have loads of fun with this if I were wealthy. I'd fly back and forth to south Texas a lot, cancel IFR and then land at a close-by private strip not on the flight plan.
 
I'd have loads of fun with this if I were wealthy. I'd fly back and forth to south Texas a lot, cancel IFR and then land at a close-by private strip not on the flight plan.

Why? There is enough of a problem with real smugglers. Why intentionally send the good guys on wild goose chases? My house sits atop the Rio Grand valley across from Mexico- about 4 or 5 miles straight line from Juarez. Some nights, when the winds are calm, I can hear the gun fire in Juarez. Some days driving to work in the morning I can see the UAV circling over Juarez. You don't travel out in the desert around here without a loaded gun. While I don't enjoy having my freedoms infringed upon and am very leery of giving ANY up, I see no reason to make things worse for those trying to defend us.
 
5 O, do these guys need a warrant to do this kind of search?

I would be inclined to tell them to suck wind unless they've got paperwork. LEOs CAN ask to see your pilot certificates, AC registration, ect. However I was under the impression that they still need a warrant and/or probable cause to search the inside of your airplane.

I guess I should add that if a SWAT team comes running at my airplane I'll comply with whatever they say to do, and complain latter.

The 4th Amendment has a clause for we in the CBP, Border Patrol, ICE, and USCG. It's called the Border Search clause. That clause exempts us from needing a warrant or probable cause to search items at the border (or functional border equivilent, ie- an international airport or entry). This law stems from the country's inherent right to protect itself and its borders. Privacy and non-routine searches, such as body cavity or strip searches, must be supported by Reasonable Suspicion at a minimum, and probable cause in some cases. If the officer develops reasonable suspicion or probable cause of a crime, he may make an investigative detention or an arrest.

If there's reasonable certainty of a border nexus (ie- that the object/persons in question crossed the border or had contact with someone/something that crossed the border), reasonable certainty that there's been no material change since the border crossing(contact with other persons, etc), and reasonable suspicion of criminal activity; then an extended border can be established, and you can be searched anywhere, geographically speaking, as if you were at the border itself.

However if they ask "Can we look inside your plane?", my answer is "not unless you've got a warrant." I didn't cross the border, so customs has no right to inspect anything. It's a pt 91 flight, so not even the FAA can look inside if I say no.

See above. If the above criteria are met, then a search can be made. If theres nothing to build a case on, then search is terminated and person/objects must be released. Remember too on "look inside", anything in what's known as "plain view" is fair game if there's PC that it may be contraband.

In the same vein, "Open Fields" doctrine allows warrantless searches of open fields, waters, pastures, etc; on the grounds that there's no reasonable expectation of privacy. "Curtilage" is exempted....that is, the open areas immediately surrounding a residence; as there is reasonable expectation of privacy to what's going on in the residence, and this area is an extension of that; Exigent Circumstances notwithstanding. Motor vehicles may be searched if PC or RS exists for a traffic stop, and in addition to Plain View, anywhere that could hide a weapon could be searched. Additionally, with PC, a vehicle can be searched (with some exceptions and clauses). And, of course, you can be searched as part of search incident to arrest.

All of this is a very small part of the 4th Amendment, the tip of the iceberg, but some of the more common parts of it people encounter....both LE as well as public.
 
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