Big brother is watching you.

t-cart

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I have a friend that owns a nice BE-55 and flies it regularly. A few weeks ago he flew down to south Texas to pick up a couple of guys from his church that had taken a van down to be used by missionaries.

He got down there and was met by his friends and went to eat lunch and get ready for the return trip. They came back from lunch and the three of them loaded up and headed home. I will add that both flights were on IFR plans.

They had a nice three hour flight home and about twenty miles out he cancelled IFR. One of the guys had never been in a plane before so they go circle his house a couple of times, then to the airport and land. As they are pulling off the runway at the non-controlled airport, my friend said he looked back and saw a jet coming in all lit up. He said he thought that was kind of strange because he had heard no other plane making callouts.

His hangar is on the backside of a row of T-hangars and he always pulls between a couple of hangars to get to his. After rounding the corner he said all of a sudden there was a Citation coming around the other end with a cop car behind it pulling up in front of him. He looked behind and there were two cop cars now positioned behind him.

The door of the jet flew open and he said seven Homeland Security officers got out and swarmed his plane and ordered them out. One of the cars carried the dog and then the search was performed. All three in the plane were searched and the dog was brought to check them and the plane.

They didn't find anything and my friend said that after the seriousness of the situation had calmed, the guys were actually pretty friendly. He said that he raised a red flag by going to the border town by himself, and just staying for a short time and then coming back with a couple of passengers. The HS plane was from Houston. They followed him a long way. They told him that they really became suspicious when he circled the friends house.

There really isn't a point here, just curious if any of you have ever had a similar event.
 
I saw a similar issue as a GA ramp/line guy last summer. I was working in the Kansas City area, and we had a Cessna 182RG come in from somewhere in Texas, right along the border. As soon as they pulled up on the ramp, a couple of DEA guys and a few local LEO"s were all over it. They explained who they were, let the people in the 182 get their kids out, and then searched it. They found nothing, AFAIK, but I must say, I was in a bit of shock when the LEO's showed up on my ramp.
 
I don't want to say this is something common here in South Florida, but at the same time it's not all that uncommon. Cool story though.
 
They even took the nose off of his airplane. They seemed to really be after something but I think they figured out they had the wrong plane. I'm going to insist he take a drug test before we head up to Oshkosh.:D
 
I don't want to say this is something common here in South Florida, but at the same time it's not all that uncommon. Cool story though.

FiveO, What do you think the percentage of busts would be versus non-bust like my friends. Other words, what % actually ends in an arrest.
 
I wish these kind of resources were actually put to use on the border where guys are back packing this stuff into our country and taking it out by car. Total BS.
 
I don't want to say this is something common here in South Florida, but at the same time it's not all that uncommon. Cool story though.

5 O, do these guys need a warrant to do this kind of search?

I would be inclined to tell them to suck wind unless they've got paperwork. LEOs CAN ask to see your pilot certificates, AC registration, ect. However I was under the impression that they still need a warrant and/or probable cause to search the inside of your airplane.

I guess I should add that if a SWAT team comes running at my airplane I'll comply with whatever they say to do, and complain latter.

However if they ask "Can we look inside your plane?", my answer is "not unless you've got a warrant." I didn't cross the border, so customs has no right to inspect anything. It's a pt 91 flight, so not even the FAA can look inside if I say no.
 
5 O, do these guys need a warrant to do this kind of search?

I would be inclined to tell them to suck wind unless they've got paperwork. LEOs CAN ask to see your pilot certificates, AC registration, ect. However I was under the impression that they still need a warrant and/or probable cause to search the inside of your airplane.

I don't know the legalities of it, but my friend has not said anything about search warrants or anything of that nature. I'll have to ask him about that. He was pretty rattled for several days after.
 
I know someone who did basically the same thing in a C180 and got the same result, and this was about 15 years ago. So yes, they're watching anything that gets close to the border, especially if you do something 'out of the ordinary'. Nothing new really.
 
I saw a similar issue as a GA ramp/line guy last summer. I was working in the Kansas City area, and we had a Cessna 182RG come in from somewhere in Texas, right along the border. As soon as they pulled up on the ramp, a couple of DEA guys and a few local LEO"s were all over it. They explained who they were, let the people in the 182 get their kids out, and then searched it. They found nothing, AFAIK, but I must say, I was in a bit of shock when the LEO's showed up on my ramp.

Hey... I think that was me and my kids. I was sweating it a little as the airplane was a rental. "Honest officer, that stuff is not mine and I have no idea how it got under the seat." I look over the interior a little closer now.
We've also had LEOs meet a few airplanes now and then coming from other locations along the boarder.
P.S.- I almost forgot. I flew up with a student (we made it his instrument cross country). His landing was... interesting. His first thought as we first saw the LEOs was that they were FAA and wanted to discuss his landing.
 
Hey... I think that was me and my kids. I was sweating it a little as the airplane was a rental. "Honest officer, that stuff is not mine and I have no idea how it got under the seat." I look over the interior a little closer now.
We've also had LEOs meet a few airplanes now and then coming from other locations along the boarder.
P.S.- I almost forgot. I flew up with a student (we made it his instrument cross country). His landing was... interesting. His first thought as we first saw the LEOs was that they were FAA and wanted to discuss his landing.

Was it out at IXD? Small world man, small world
 
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