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Vapor Lock

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This might not be the best place for this but i wanted to narrow down the audience. Momentum seems to be swinging to the 121 side of the industry so I'm thinking of making a change. I have 4000 total time, 3700 PIC, 2000 Turbine 1700 Turbine PIC but its PC12. A little over 800 multi, 500 of which is baron PIC and the rest is Jetstream SIC. So the question is who should I be looking at? Really didn't want to do the regional thing but I guess I may have too. Air Wisconsin is first option since pay is better. Thoughts please!
 
Location, Location, Location

Even if you're willing to move, I suggest finding a regional that has a junior base in an area you wouldn't mind living in for awhile.
 
I'd look anywhere but the regionals. Omni seems to hire guys around your times. As an addendum, I'd suggest that my crystal ball tells me that the place to be in times of economic strife is somewhere the planes HAVE to fly. Omni moves troops around...they stay. The freight gotta go, it stays. The sick people are gonna get sick. EMS stays. Pax? Meh. Maybe we'll just staycation...
 
Boris Badenov said:
I'd look anywhere but the regionals. Omni seems to hire guys around your times. As an addendum, I'd suggest that my crystal ball tells me that the place to be in times of economic strife is somewhere the planes HAVE to fly. Omni moves troops around...they stay. The freight gotta go, it stays. The sick people are gonna get sick. EMS stays. Pax? Meh. Maybe we'll just staycation...
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TWA and Pan Am are obviously at the top of the list. Eastern is nice too, if you like Latin America and such. Or, if you want a regional type of outfit to stay closer to home, you could always try Ozark, Piedmont or Allegheny. Perhaps Mohawk of you like cold weather. And, PSA has really hot FA's, so there's them too.
 
WacoFan said:
TWA and Pan Am are obviously at the top of the list. Eastern is nice too, if you like Latin America and such. Or, if you want a regional type of outfit to stay closer to home, you could always try Ozark, Piedmont or Allegheny. Perhaps Mohawk of you like cold weather. And, PSA has really hot FA's, so there's them too.
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Man, yeah, PSA. San Diego base, 727s, home virtually every night, except for maybe a SMF overnight here and there...Yeah man, just wait till they get the L1011s. Great advancement potential. Go with PSA.
 
WacoFan said:
TWA and Pan Am are obviously at the top of the list. Eastern is nice too, if you like Latin America and such. Or, if you want a regional type of outfit to stay closer to home, you could always try Ozark, Piedmont or Allegheny. Perhaps Mohawk of you like cold weather. And, PSA has really hot FA's, so there's them too.
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You forgot the Oooonly Way To Fly:

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Cazadores said:
Man, yeah, PSA. San Diego base, 727s, home virtually every night, except for maybe a SMF overnight here and there...Yeah man, just wait till they get the L1011s. Great advancement potential. Go with PSA.
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Who is this PSA? I only know of an east coast PSA that runs CRJ 200 and 700. I've looked at omni and I have a friend there. Even looked at their lear operation. What I lack to get em past the regional level is twin turbine. Almost all my turbine is single engine. I don't have my ATP yet and only and SIC type rating on the JS3101. Everything I know flying big iron wants at least 1000 twin turbine. Without internal recs I'm not expecting to get past that.
 
Vapor Lock said:
Who is this PSA? I only know of an east coast PSA that runs CRJ 200 and 700. I've looked at omni and I have a friend there. Even looked at their lear operation. What I lack to get em past the regional level is twin turbine. Almost all my turbine is single engine. I don't have my ATP yet and only and SIC type rating on the JS3101. Everything I know flying big iron wants at least 1000 twin turbine. Without internal recs I'm not expecting to get past that.
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They're being facetious. The original PSA became US Airways.
 
jtrain609 said:
They're being facetious. The original PSA became US Airways.
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Sad that an entire generation doesn't know of PSA or Piedmont except for the crappy regional iterations. I'd be willing to bring back the Ozark brand just because I loved the three swallows livery. Of course, my ultimate livery to bring back would be Western Air Express from the 30's - the indian head.
 
WacoFan said:
Sad that an entire generation doesn't know of PSA or Piedmont except for the crappy regional iterations. I'd be willing to bring back the Ozark brand just because I loved the three swallows livery. Of course, my ultimate livery to bring back would be Western Air Express from the 30's - the indian head.
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Now the three swallows of aviation are something to be ashamed of...
 
Dare I say it..... GoJets?

In all honesty, if you want to go to the regionals go to one with junior bases where you'd like to live.

If you want a little more adventure check out the Omnis, etc. also Kalitta Charters or USA Jet.
 
Well, obviously try for the bigger ones. You never know. If Reginals are it, then by all means come on over to AWAC. We would love to have you!
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Well, obviously try for the bigger ones. You never know. If Reginals are it, then by all means come on over to AWAC. We would love to have you!
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I'd do it, but when I show up at a job fair with 38 ME (nevermind 2,400 TT, ATP) they seem to like green MEIs better. Go figure.
 
Probably. But how much sense does that make when Key Lime, Amflight, Cape Air, etc can put you in a piston turbocharged twin with less multi than what a regional can put you in as an FO in a nearly centerline thrust jet?
 
TallFlyer said:
Probably. But how much sense does that make when Key Lime, Amflight, Cape Air, etc can put you in a piston turbocharged twin with less multi than what a regional can put you in as an FO in a nearly centerline thrust jet?
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Alot more people?
 
TallFlyer said:
Probably. But how much sense does that make when Key Lime, Amflight, Cape Air, etc can put you in a piston turbocharged twin with less multi than what a regional can put you in as an FO in a nearly centerline thrust jet?
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Were you under the impression this industry makes sense?

I don't know why things are the way they are. I do know that everything always boils down to a bottom line and if the insurance company wants X amount of ME time, you're probably not going to get looked at with less.

This may blow your mind, but if you don't have the mins for a job you want then....drumroll.....get the mins.

I know everyone's situation is different, but I'm sure there has been pilots in your shoes before that figured it out
 
D.E.N.N.I.S. said:
Were you under the impression this industry makes sense?
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Ha. Don't I know it.

This may blow your mind, but if you don't have the mins for a job you want then....drumroll.....get the mins.

I know everyone's situation is different, but I'm sure there has been pilots in your shoes before that figured it out
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Oh trust me, working on it. Have spoken with the powers that be at all three twin piston carriers I mentioned, as well as a regional that doesn't seem to mind the lack of multi given my other qualifications. I've also had some offers to help get me up to 50 ME but I really don't want to keep sinking money into timebuilding when I've already got nearly 2,400 hours.

I just think its funny that with all the anecdotal evidence I've been hearing about failures in Indoc at some regionals with the sub 1,000 hour crowd that a guy with an ATP and a boatload of PIC is relegated to the circular file.
 
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