ClarkGriswold
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Cool video. I just recently found out my Grandfather worked on these. Wish I had known, I would have loved to chat with him about them before he passed.
B-58 Hustler Awesomeness
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AAPalmTree
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Two years after the hustlers flight was the SR71's first flight.
///AMG
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Yeah, and to be fair, by 1981, (manned) winged aircraft were flying Mach 25
Bandit_Driver
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Great plane and vid. The Pima museum is a must see.
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Springer
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First time I saw a B-58 was at Pima. It was actually smaller than I had envisioned.
In that vid Lt. Col. Henry John Deutschendorf, Sr. who made one of the speed runs, is the father of John Denver.
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Springer
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Ed Yielding, SR-71 AC, is one of the most unassuming guys you would ever meet. Was giving me a RF-4C local area check out and just as we taxied onto the runway smoke started pouring out from under my seat. I shut down the engines and dove over the side (no fuselage foot steps on a recce F-4). I looked up at him still sitting in the backseat giving me the "WTF" look.
After he retired from the AF he flew for NWA. Nobody knew about his record setting flight.
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That's weird.....no drop down extendable steps on the RF-4? I know the other models have them...at least D/E. Any particular reason?
Springer
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Mainly because of SLAR...side looking radar. If there was not a boarding ladder it was a balancing act trying to get into the cockpit via the wing drop tank. A friend who was the chief FCF pilot for returning mothballed RF-4's to flying status to be configured as drones at DM fell while climbing in one and that was the end of his flying career.
Cptnchia
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You mean 2 point 5?
Cptnchia
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You gotta admit, the advances from the 30s to the 50s/60s were impressive.
ctab5060X
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Cptnchia
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Hmm, don't really consider that a powered aircraft. It was essentially a rocket assisted glider. Maybe in the pure technical definition, but even my Luscombe can maintain level sustained flight in the atmosphere. The shuttle can't. It's atmospheric flight is just falling with style. Even it's Mach 25 in orbit is it falling in a circular path around the planet.
chrisreedrules
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The advances haven't stopped, they've just become "less public". The military has a lot of stuff we don't know about and probably never will.
thevideographer
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The Space Shuttle could definitely maintain level flight in the atmosphere. Just not for very long. Think of it as a short endurance. (heh)
Cptnchia
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Hence the word "sustained" that I used.
///AMG
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Well obviously we are getting into semantics, however the Mach 25 figure is stable orbit, i.e. it is maintaining altitude……once it starts the de-orbit burn and slows down, different story of course. My only point is that aerospace technology had significantly increased in the couple decades between those speed records, just as a generality…..not that space shuttle to powered atmospheric supersonic jet is any true comparison.
Ruck
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If you want to get really finicky about it, all straight-and-level atmospheric flight is kinda just using thrust and the density of the atmosphere to keep continually, albeit very gradually, falling around the earth at the desired altitude.
If it was really 'straight and level' relative to Earth you'd be zooming out of the atmosphere at a pretty high relative speed
Beep
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If it was really 'straight and level' relative to Earth you'd be zooming out of the atmosphere at a pretty high relative speed
Wouldn't it be straight and level relative to a particular point on earth that would send you out of the atmosphere as you continued on?