Asking for the jumpseat and other lost traditions

wheelsup said:
On the rare occasion my wife drives into work, she wears jeans as do most. She works for a very large IT company valued in the billions. For her, jeans are business casual....
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I despise the term business casual. It is completely ambiguous based on what coast you're on, and completely unnecessary in most of the places it's defined... which is why it's so ambiguous.

As someone said above, in the tech industry, business casual can mean anything from jeans and a polo to a suit without a tie, largely depending on which regional area you're in.

I'm gonna stop talking about this, though, before ATN gets involved.

-Fox
 
Derg said:
I had an FO tell me to "hold on a sec" when I called for the preflight checklist because he was texting.
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He only TOLD you he was Texting? He was posting on ProPilot or FlightInfo...:eek2:

You and I were Geeks before some of these guys were born!
 
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Finny said:
There also seems to be a lot of FOs in my generation that do not know how to follow either...
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LOL - funny how "generations" can make a difference:

I have a Coach who works for me who was working on staying within the boundaries I set. During one of our feedback sessions I asked him (pointed out actually):
  • You were raised by your mother (father not in the picture)
  • You're an only child (no older brothers)
  • You work for yourself (Internet-based business)
  • You've never had a boss...
It's been fun seeing the light bulb come on that he's never really lived within the confines of others' expectations.

Our younger FOs may be in similar positions given the rapid advance some have seen in their careers and the changes in demographics. It's one of the reasons I'm still flying as an International FO rather than upgrading to the Left Seat.
 
Derg said:
I don't try to overthink it. The policy manual says no blue jeans at my shop except for certain select groups so no blue jeans.

Do I care? No, but it's not my jet! :)
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How about backpacks as an accessory to the double breasted suit coat? :)
 
MikeD said:
How about backpacks as an accessory to the double breasted suit coat? :)
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"Keep your backpacks on" as one of our VP's said in reference to keeping our nose to the grindstone.

Collectively, we asked ourselves "Backpacks? We're not even allowed to wear backpacks!"
 
Derg said:
"Keep your backpacks on" as one of our VP's said in reference to keeping our nose to the grindstone.

Collectively, we asked ourselves "Backpacks? We're not even allowed to wear backpacks!"
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VPs? Dude, it was the CEO hisself that said it! RA ordered you to wear your backpack! Now, buckle down, toe the line, and get back to work, or no PS for you!
 
I have jumpseated in overalls and a hoodie before. But it was on one of these bad boys. I missed the evening jet, then I heard the Herc pull up. Ran next door, next thing you know I am riding on this really cool plane.

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ASpilot2be said:
I have jumpseated in overalls and a hoodie before. But it was on one of these bad boys. I missed the evening jet, then I heard the Herc pull up. Ran next door, next thing you know I am riding on this really cool plane.

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That's badass! I saw that in Yokota a couple times.
 
I found myself in an interesting situation the other day. I was checking in for the jumpseat with the gate agent when the captain comes up to me and introduces himself. Jokingly he said he cant take any jumpseaters but then asked if I needed a lift. I said if thats alright with you and he said there should be plenty of room. Did I just check in "up front?" It didnt feel right to not stop by and say hello before I took my seat so I did it again when I boarded and the captain looked at me funny like what are you doin? Maybe Im overcomplicating the formality...
 
As I understand it, checking in with the Captain does not have a set location. If they crew walks into the gate area I'll introduce myself, and that typically satisfies the requirement. However, if I'm asked to confirm my seat by stopping by the flight deck, I do.
 
If I run into the captain before boarding I'll generally ask if he wants me to check in again upon boarding. The replies are either "no don't worry about it" or "just stop by to let me know you made it on"
 
Stryker172 said:
I found myself in an interesting situation the other day. I was checking in for the jumpseat with the gate agent when the captain comes up to me and introduces himself. Jokingly he said he cant take any jumpseaters but then asked if I needed a lift. I said if thats alright with you and he said there should be plenty of room. Did I just check in "up front?" It didnt feel right to not stop by and say hello before I took my seat so I did it again when I boarded and the captain looked at me funny like what are you doin? Maybe Im overcomplicating the formality...
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The only reason I want a jump seater who I've already talked to to check in up front us to make sure they got on.
 
Had a captain nearly deny me the jumpseat once because I wasn't in uniform.
I was biz casual and looked professional.
"I don't appreciate your asking for a ride when you're not in uniform!"

And agreed on what's been said- when I'm flying I'm frequently amazed when (typically mainline) guys walk in and announce they're riding up front.

As jumpseater, you're part of the crew. Is napping frowned upon?
I was riding on mainline once and the captain (friendly but meant it) said "there are no free rides - you're part of this crew!"
Yet as a pilot I've had a jumpsester take his seat and announce "wake me when we get there!"
And another time I was riding as one of 2 jumpseaters and the other guy was sound asleep nearly the whole way- crew never said anything to him. Yet I will fight sleep the whole way no matter how tired I may be.
 
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