AS hiring Aug 2024

I can't remember the last time they didn't take at least one from the mormon air force. Granted with the way hiring has been the last few years I can't imagine there'd be much if any people (notwithstanding the lifers) there still that would meet the experience requirement that AS wanted.
 
Any word on when AS may be hiring again? Also any insight as to when they may get a new contract and if it will increase enough in pay to compete with the “Big 4”?
 
Our director told us yesterday that we would possibly see another small class of 2-3 in 2025.

I would also assume that we will need a fairly sizable amount in the coming years as we get a new flight planning system, and the associated attrition for that.

I don’t have any contract information, but we do ok financially. It’s expensive here, but I think we have the best location of all the career airlines, so factor that in however you wish.
 
DispatcherSam said:
Our director told us yesterday that we would possibly see another small class of 2-3 in 2025.

I would also assume that we will need a fairly sizable amount in the coming years as we get a new flight planning system, and the associated attrition for that.

I don’t have any contract information, but we do ok financially. It’s expensive here, but I think we have the best location of all the career airlines, so factor that in however you wish.
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Flight Keys grabs another one?!?!?

Grassy ass, señor.
 
DispatcherSam said:
Our director told us yesterday that we would possibly see another small class of 2-3 in 2025.

I would also assume that we will need a fairly sizable amount in the coming years as we get a new flight planning system, and the associated attrition for that.

I don’t have any contract information, but we do ok financially. It’s expensive here, but I think we have the best location of all the career airlines, so factor that in however you wish.
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Are yall still on track for the March 2025 market review?
 
gopherdx said:
Flight Keys is excellent. It takes some time getting used to the whole “brick theory” but once you do, it’s such an intuitive and time saving software. Not sure what y'all use now, but we at B6 went from FPM to FK and it’s night and day. Especially the ‘multi-select’ function.
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EHhhhh it's okay. It does a few things (reroutes, diversions, and some of the tools for making routes in weather) extremely well. It also has a lot of flaws and bugs. At my carrier it has few, if any, people that just love it. Most are of the polar opposite opinion.

Far from terrible in my opinion but it's also far from time saving when you consider all the stuff you have to fix (bad routes, illegal alternates, if you aren't extremely careful it will continue to try to optimize and will change routes after release and then reinit'ing the route after an mel gets added so your crew has one route and atc has another) or the stuff we could do in bulk before (selecting a common runway, intersection, temp, field condition) that now has to be done manually for each flight. It's a wash on time savings. It does get intuitive though the more you use it.
 
autosave36 said:
EHhhhh it's okay. It does a few things (reroutes, diversions, and some of the tools for making routes in weather) extremely well. It also has a lot of flaws and bugs. At my carrier it has few, if any, people that just love it. Most are of the polar opposite opinion.

Far from terrible in my opinion but it's also far from time saving when you consider all the stuff you have to fix (bad routes, illegal alternates, if you aren't extremely careful it will continue to try to optimize and will change routes after release and then reinit'ing the route after an mel gets added so your crew has one route and atc has another) or the stuff we could do in bulk before (selecting a common runway, intersection, temp, field condition) that now has to be done manually for each flight. It's a wash on time savings. It does get intuitive though the more you use it.
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I think it’s also how your backend dispatch support group sets it up. For example, as soon as we release a flight, the flight auto locks. Nothing will ever change the flight unless you manually go in and do it yourself. Say you release a flight and MCC adds an MEL, we get the red brick alert that there’s an MEL so we have to press the acknowledge and re-optimize button inside the alert. FKY will run everything in the background and we just remark, and major release. I’ve never had the situation you mentioned about re-initing routes, etc after release. Sometimes the optimizer can be a bit strange but we just advise out DX support team and they try to fix it.
 
gopherdx said:
I think it’s also how your backend dispatch support group sets it up. For example, as soon as we release a flight, the flight auto locks. Nothing will ever change the flight unless you manually go in and do it yourself.
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We need to get us some of that. with ours, after we send it, it is still trying to re-optimize the plan. So it's not uncommon for you to get red brick alerts that the current optimized copy has a new altitude, and once you would get an mel, not uncommon at all that it's not it would change the route because instead of doing a "re-init" it was doing a "re-init route". We've just started manually locking the route manually once we send. My understanding is they're fixing that.

That'll help but overall I think it's a wash. It's not awful by any means. It's just differently good and differently bad.
 
autosave36 said:
We need to get us some of that. with ours, after we send it, it is still trying to re-optimize the plan. So it's not uncommon for you to get red brick alerts that the current optimized copy has a new altitude, and once you would get an mel, not uncommon at all that it's not it would change the route because instead of doing a "re-init" it was doing a "re-init route". We've just started manually locking the route manually once we send. My understanding is they're fixing that.

That'll help but overall I think it's a wash. It's not awful by any means. It's just differently good and differently bad.
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Yeah I guess it depends what you came from before FKY. FPM was clunky af. It did some things very well (I really miss the Note column on my list page), but overall the overwhelming majority love and prefer FKY over FPM. There was no flow with FPM, whereas with FKY you can sorta get a flow and the multi tasking functions are great. YMMV
 
autosave36 said:
We need to get us some of that. with ours, after we send it, it is still trying to re-optimize the plan. So it's not uncommon for you to get red brick alerts that the current optimized copy has a new altitude, and once you would get an mel, not uncommon at all that it's not it would change the route because instead of doing a "re-init" it was doing a "re-init route". We've just started manually locking the route manually once we send. My understanding is they're fixing that.

That'll help but overall I think it's a wash. It's not awful by any means. It's just differently good and differently bad.
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One thing I love that I have seen a lot lately is the flight will calculate with a Method 1 Driftdown. Something happens and after flightkeys recalcs suddenly it becomes a method 2 despite the original release being Method 1. I love flightkeys overall but this is probably the most annoying thing I have seen with Flightkeys since it rolled out.
 
BruinsFan said:
One thing I love that I have seen a lot lately is the flight will calculate with a Method 1 Driftdown. Something happens and after flightkeys recalcs suddenly it becomes a method 2 despite the original release being Method 1. I love flightkeys overall but this is probably the most annoying thing I have seen with Flightkeys since it rolled out.
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FKYs initial release at AA was a terrible product that wasn't ready for real time use. It still has a lot of work to be done but it is a much improved product. B6 learned a lot of lessons from our initial roll out which is probably why it has a different reputation there.
 
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