Are pilots blue collar or white collar?

[Screaming_Emu]

Trump voting union members. Good luck figuring out the shirt collar.

Whatever the collar is, I guarantee you there are no sleeves.

 

[Beefy McGee]

We are ring around the collar. It's tough to keep pilot shirt collars clean.

 

[ppragman]

Trump voting union members. Good luck figuring out the shirt collar.

• collar?

 

[SteveC]

Whatever the collar is, I guarantee you there are no sleeves.

No way man. Biggliest sleeves!

 

[Ian_J]

No way man. Biggliest sleeves!

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Steve… dude… you promised you wouldn’t dox me.

 

[derg]

I consider myself a blue collar guy. Nothing better than getting my work boots dirty and my Carhartt shirts trashed kind of thing. I have always considered airline pilots as blue collar. Mainly because we operate big machinery, are unionized, and are labor in management's eyes.

Others I have talked to consider airline pilots as white collar, citing high levels of training and requirements. Something similar to lawyers and other white collar professionals with advanced training?

What do you think? I'm sticking with blue collar since it feels more natural to me.

Blue.

You do, of course, on a small level earn money through decisions in the cockpit but on a managerial-level and upward, the board of directors are going to throw you a Capri Sun and tell you to go color in the corner.

We‘re labor. Every time a pilot, during a election year, starts going off about “Big Unions” or “Labor”, once they’ve tired themselves out, I will sometimes suggest what they think ALPA is.

 

[Roger Roger]

Blue.

You do, of course, on a small level earn money through decisions in the cockpit but on a managerial-level and upward, the board of directors are going to throw you a Capri Sun and tell you to go color in the corner.

We‘re labor. Every time a pilot, during a election year, starts going off about “Big Unions” or “Labor”, once they’ve tired themselves out, I will sometimes suggest what they think ALPA is.

The thing that drives me bats is that a supposedly “white collar” office worker, unless they have a corner office and a whole bunch of people reporting to them, has more in common with a plumber or an airline pilot when it comes to labor/management relations but somehow we’ve got this thing going where if you work in a cube you don’t need a union or pro-labor political policies for some reason.

 

[milleR]

Exempt vs non-exempt is often a good starting point for delineation.

 

[ppragman]

Are you a member of the proletariat or the petty bourgeoisie? Ask yourself that.

 

[CFI A&P]

White collar with a gray inlay is the best answer to this and I'm sticking with it.

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Y’all have collars?

 

[ASpilot2be]

Y’all have collars?View attachment 62222

He's pretty excited about his job.

 

[BravoHotel]

Both. At least in my sector. After you're done flying there many chores to do. Servicing the lav, cleaning goldfish crumbs out of the carpet, cleaning up rich people's empties, cleaning finger prints off of the windows, (why dammit?) stock the catering, etc. Then you have the paperwork...

 

[Beefy McGee]

He's pretty excited about his job.

Heck, he likes flying so much he'd do it for penis gourds. Looks like he's in the captain seat too.

 

[Maximilian_Jenius]

Both. At least in my sector. After you're done flying there many chores to do. Servicing the lav, cleaning goldfish crumbs out of the carpet, cleaning up rich people's empties, cleaning finger prints off of the windows, (why dammit?) stock the catering, etc. Then you have the paperwork...

121 > 135/91

 

[SteveC]

121 > 135/91

Instigator!

 

[Maximilian_Jenius]

Instigator!

Seriously though, that just sounds like a lot of work.

 

[web265]

boat captains?

Depends on the boat, the 40' fishing charter? No
The cruise ship with 6,000 + people on it? Yes

 

[BravoHotel]

121 > 135/91

Here we go again.

 

[ajm757]

Seriously though, that just sounds like a lot of work.

Your posting credibility is crumbling before our very eyes. I did not intend to take you down but this is the path you have chosen. Why are you doing this to yourself?

 

[Hiboglossi]

Instigator!

Like it or not, Max is right mathematically.