An interesting take on "quitting"

chrisreedrules said:
It’s just funny to me that in this day and age, there are no real surprises out there. He knew exactly what he was getting into. And then when exactly what he thinks is going to happen happens, he quits and makes videos about it. The whole thing just seems dumb.

Complains about student loans, quits job with tremendous upside potential right now because, “reserve like, sucks dude”.

Says they miss teaching, but doesn’t mention the possibility of being a check airman at their airline eventually.

I guess I just don’t get it. The quality of FOs is getting worse these days. And seeing that doesn’t help change my opinion to the contrary.
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I say let him crash!
 
Jordan93 said:
This is why I end my initial brief with something along the lines of, “you’re going to upgrade faster and quicker than you think, please ask as many questions as possible and I’ll do my best to answer them or point you in the right direction.” I’ll let them decide whether it’s a good idea to do a single engine taxi, which way we should go for weather, should we climb or descend to get a better ride. When we hold, I don’t even initially calculate our bingo fuel. I give the paperwork to the FO and say, “what do you think man?” They are all captains in training and I think it’s part of my job to get them prepared for the left seat.
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I tell my FOs I'm a pretty laid back Captain. Stuff on my side is mine, don't touch anything without telling me, and if I want your opinion I'll beat it out of you. I'm not a Captain because I've been here longer, I'm a Captain cause I'm better than you. That's why you only have three stripes and I have five. Keep me out of trouble, can't say I'll do the same for you. Questions? Before Start Checklist..............
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I tell my FOs I'm a pretty laid back Captain. Stuff on my side is mine, don't touch anything without telling me, and if I want your opinion I'll beat it out of you. I'm not a Captain because I've been here longer, I'm a Captain cause I'm better than you. That's why you only have three stripes and I have five. Keep me out of trouble, can't say I'll do the same for you. Questions? Before Start Checklist..............
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I didn’t know you got hired at AA in the 80’s.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I'm not sure I agree with this. 8-900 hrs in the right seat isn't a lot before upgrade to CA.
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You should be able to do it shortly after OE, so 8-900 hours is plenty.
Airlines hire "Captains" right? So be ready to be captain day 1. You're doing the FO thing wrong if you're not prepared for that.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Those guys are definitely a problem. Having some skin in the game provides a lot of motivation to bring your “A game”, and so on.

If it’s just your hobby, then you (most likely) aren’t going to be as motivated as a guy/lady doing this as your main career. At least from what I’ve seen of those older career changer types. Not all of course... Just a lot of them.
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I’ve flown with a lot of pretty crappy career changers. Some great ones too, but if I had generalize a group of people onto my do not fly list, it would be career changers.
 
Derg said:
LOL. You do know violations come in pairs, trios and quartets, yes?
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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I tell my FOs I'm a pretty laid back Captain. Stuff on my side is mine, don't touch anything without telling me, and if I want your opinion I'll beat it out of you. I'm not a Captain because I've been here longer, I'm a Captain cause I'm better than you. That's why you only have three stripes and I have five. Keep me out of trouble, can't say I'll do the same for you. Questions? Before Start Checklist..............
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Be a chameleon!
 
chrisreedrules said:
And then they are sitting reserve and often times flying with very brand new FOs who also don’t know what they don’t know. The don’t knows and the don’t know what they don’t knows are looking to the left seat for guidance and as an example and this can lead to issues in my experience.
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Continental Airlines 1713, DEN, 1987.
 
Derg said:
I think if you approach flying copilot as “I’m going to be in the left seat tomorrow, how would I handle this” you’ll be fine.

So many guys sit in the right seat and are basically there for the ride, it might be an eye opener.
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When flying a formation flight, one of the brief items is that the wingman better be ready, mentally and SA-wise, to assume the lead of the formation at any phase of flight, if needed. So while it's a pain in the ass, things like when IMC and getting radar vectored while holding 3 foot fingertip form from the lead jet, you need to be able to reach down and change frequencies for navaids and such, and get the instrument approach tuned in and set up on the instruments......all while not having a midair with the jet whose wingtip you're flying off of, as sometimes that's all you can see. All part of keeping up the SA and staying ahead of the formation, ready to take over if something goes effed-up with lead. Same concept applies to being an FO. At any point, you may need to take over for some reason. That won't be the time to be playing catch-up.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I tell my FOs I'm a pretty laid back Captain. Stuff on my side is mine, don't touch anything without telling me, and if I want your opinion I'll beat it out of you. I'm not a Captain because I've been here longer, I'm a Captain cause I'm better than you. That's why you only have three stripes and I have five. Keep me out of trouble, can't say I'll do the same for you. Questions? Before Start Checklist..............
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“Take the fat one”
 
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