cfii2007
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After studying for the exam, I honestly felt like throwing myself off a roof.
Am I ready for a regional?
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After studying for the exam, I honestly felt like throwing myself off a roof.
athomeinthesky
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DCA is not in Massachusetts anymore
FlySooner9
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heck if you want to apply for a regional why not do it? Sure you probably wont get hired but why not try? Sure hes got low time and yes historically his hours wouldn't even be close, but with regionals the way they are now a days why not try if he wants to go to the regionals? Isn't the worst that could happen for him is he doesn't get a call so he can than go instruct or pipeline whatever he can get. I respect everyone here but sometimes i really dont understand why yall have to bash the hell out of someone when he asks a simple question. If you don't think hes qualified just tell him in a professional way that he would probably be better off building a few more hundred hours. Instead yall just mock him and make fun of him and probably turn him away from jetcareers. Yeah im young you all know that, i know yall have way more knowledge and what not but all im saying is show some respect and professionalism to people. I dont care if i piss people here off or not, but some of you (not everyone) needs to grow up some and get over themselves
JaceTheAce
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Okay, I'm sure I'm going to get yelled at by the airline pilots who paid their dues by instructing, flying checks Part 135 in icy conditions and barely dying, etc...
I got hired to fly a Dash at 201TT and 33ME. I was scared as hell the whole way through training because I felt "how could they think I'm ready to do this at such low time?" but, I kept a positive attitude the whole way through and I think that's what got me through it. If you have a good attitude and remain focused, it's possible to get through a Part 121 training program. Also, I was laid off from my job in my former real estate appraisal career and had a new airline job waiving under my nose - "hmm, should I take the new airline job flying Dash 8's or should I satisfy MTSU_Av8r and the rest of those against low-time pilots and say Hmm, I know I am about to lose my car and apartment while unemployed, but I don't deserve the job at low time, so let me just let some other 201TT pilot take the job, starve to death, and let this opportunity slip by me..." It was also a matter of survival. I was already jobless for 3 months and exhausted all my financial resources to begin CFI training. The real estate industry was dead at that moment and there was no way to seek employment within another appraisal firm.
I do feel really disadvantaged by not ever earning my CFI certificates and working as a CFI as I see how much valuable experience just went past me. I will some day earn my CFI.
I got hired to fly a Dash at 201TT and 33ME. I was scared as hell the whole way through training because I felt "how could they think I'm ready to do this at such low time?" but, I kept a positive attitude the whole way through and I think that's what got me through it. If you have a good attitude and remain focused, it's possible to get through a Part 121 training program. Also, I was laid off from my job in my former real estate appraisal career and had a new airline job waiving under my nose - "hmm, should I take the new airline job flying Dash 8's or should I satisfy MTSU_Av8r and the rest of those against low-time pilots and say Hmm, I know I am about to lose my car and apartment while unemployed, but I don't deserve the job at low time, so let me just let some other 201TT pilot take the job, starve to death, and let this opportunity slip by me..." It was also a matter of survival. I was already jobless for 3 months and exhausted all my financial resources to begin CFI training. The real estate industry was dead at that moment and there was no way to seek employment within another appraisal firm.
I do feel really disadvantaged by not ever earning my CFI certificates and working as a CFI as I see how much valuable experience just went past me. I will some day earn my CFI.
EatSleepFly
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JaceTheAce
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LOL... Jeez Lloyd- why do you always have to be hatin'? :cwm27:anic:
he'll get a kick outta this post :bandit:
moxiepilot
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the attitude is what gets you through.
lessons learned that can be valuable for those who find themselves in a similar predicament
lessons learned that can be valuable for those who find themselves in a similar predicament
I have been looking for one of those jobs for several months now while working on getting CFI. No luck.
David
mtsu_av8er
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You can't satisfy me, Jace.
ROFLCOPTER!!!!!11:rotfl:
flyguy
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Ya know Lloyd, although most of us around here can actually smell your sarcasm, the little
tag goes a long way for the newbies who might be tempted to take you seriously.
jtrain609
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Maximilian_Jenius
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You can't satisfy me, Jace.
Alright, alright, you've had dog, cat, horse and MRE's. And now without trying him, you know that Jace can't satisfy you?
:laff:
Shhhh not while im flyin
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I am currently doing aerial photography and ive flow in extrememly windy conditions, mountains, (no not the rockies, but its beta than airport elevation of 31 ft where i trained....florida...smh) and now im getting my ass kicked in Texas where theres an airmet for turbulence EVERYDAY! Its not all about time, its the experience!
Thats wat it all boils down to. Ive got a 737 type rating. Do you think airtran will accept it?
Thats probably the dumbest response I've seen in a while. Thats whats wrong with aviation, everyone is an expert, i guess your family knows exactly who's flying the aircraft and what they hold for hours when they fly, do they check the maintenance logs too before getting on board?
ppragman
No pasa nada.
You know, I would not pay too much attention to a lot of the BS you're going to here from some of these people. If you can get a job, take it. If you don't get offered a job, then get your CFI.
I was working on my CFI, got a job, flew the summer, and now I fly right seat in Beech 1900s. Never got my CFI. Another couple of months, I'll go to Airnet and prop PIC. I could have gone the regional route, I got calls from mesaba, transstates, mesa, etc, but its not what I'm in aviation for. You'll have to decide for your self if you're really "ready."
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you do as long as you have the right attitude, you can learn just as much as right seat in the jet as you can in the right seat in the 172 at your local FBO as long as you apply yourself to ensuring that you learn the right way to do things, the legal way to do things, and you participate actively in decision making. Concentrate on hitting your spot when you land, and keeping your handflying skills sharp. Study study study study study study, then, at the end of the day, when you work for Whatever-jet airlines as a captain, you can go back and get your CFI, and teach your friends and family to fly, or work part time locally.
Finally, be aware that this is the internet, and for all of the good information available on JC, there is a plethora of ignorant, or biased statements. Additionally, many many many participants in this board seem to be a little bitter. What I mean by that is that they never had the same opportunities that us young-ens have now. In a way, they feel that since they had it hard, we have to have it just as difficult. Now, there's something to be said for going the hard route and working your way in and paying your dues, but I don't know about anyone else, but if I can increase my pay grade, and decrease the time I'm going to have ###### qol, then I'm going to do it, and if you had the opportunity you would have too. All that matters is QOL and safety. You're in a good position to get both, I'd suggest you do your damndest to get on.
I was working on my CFI, got a job, flew the summer, and now I fly right seat in Beech 1900s. Never got my CFI. Another couple of months, I'll go to Airnet and prop PIC. I could have gone the regional route, I got calls from mesaba, transstates, mesa, etc, but its not what I'm in aviation for. You'll have to decide for your self if you're really "ready."
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you do as long as you have the right attitude, you can learn just as much as right seat in the jet as you can in the right seat in the 172 at your local FBO as long as you apply yourself to ensuring that you learn the right way to do things, the legal way to do things, and you participate actively in decision making. Concentrate on hitting your spot when you land, and keeping your handflying skills sharp. Study study study study study study, then, at the end of the day, when you work for Whatever-jet airlines as a captain, you can go back and get your CFI, and teach your friends and family to fly, or work part time locally.
Finally, be aware that this is the internet, and for all of the good information available on JC, there is a plethora of ignorant, or biased statements. Additionally, many many many participants in this board seem to be a little bitter. What I mean by that is that they never had the same opportunities that us young-ens have now. In a way, they feel that since they had it hard, we have to have it just as difficult. Now, there's something to be said for going the hard route and working your way in and paying your dues, but I don't know about anyone else, but if I can increase my pay grade, and decrease the time I'm going to have ###### qol, then I'm going to do it, and if you had the opportunity you would have too. All that matters is QOL and safety. You're in a good position to get both, I'd suggest you do your damndest to get on.
Firebird2XC
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Does he taste like chicken?
DE727UPS
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"What I mean by that is that they never had the same opportunities that us young-ens have now. In a way, they feel that since they had it hard, we have to have it just as difficult."
Gawd, I'm getting so sick of hearing that....
Look, it has nothing to do with "having it hard". It has to do with bringing what many of us consider to be an adequate level of experience to the right seat of a shiny jet that says "Delta" on the side of it.
I'm all for the youngins' new world order. Rah Rah. The problem is the new world order lowers the bar (I think unacceptably) with respect to experience levels of those in the right seat of airline jets.
You play that off as bitterness but I'm here to tell you I think it's a valid concern.
Nothing against folks getting on in today's environment, but I don't think it's a good thing for the career that we have gone so low in what is expected from an airline pilot.
Gawd, I'm getting so sick of hearing that....
Look, it has nothing to do with "having it hard". It has to do with bringing what many of us consider to be an adequate level of experience to the right seat of a shiny jet that says "Delta" on the side of it.
I'm all for the youngins' new world order. Rah Rah. The problem is the new world order lowers the bar (I think unacceptably) with respect to experience levels of those in the right seat of airline jets.
You play that off as bitterness but I'm here to tell you I think it's a valid concern.
Nothing against folks getting on in today's environment, but I don't think it's a good thing for the career that we have gone so low in what is expected from an airline pilot.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Lol, like cock you mean, a rooster? Dunno, never had him!
ppragman
No pasa nada.
Getting sick of hearing that every young pilot looking for work is a dumbass who cannot possibly have the required skill.
To be perfectly honest, I agree with you, we shouldn't be lowering the bar, however, the market demands it right now, so all of us young-ins are in for a treat. Just because someone has 400TT does not mean that they are an idiot, it just means that they have less experience. Its probably better for aviation safety if we take these low time guys and throw them into the right seat of a jet where there are strict guidelines rather than throwing them out to the wolves where they can teach people how to fly (when they barely know how to fly themselves). Is it better to fly the airline way? or learn how to fly the freight dawg way? that's a whole other can of worms, but in terms of being conservative with your decision making, and erring on the side of caution, probably the airline way is better.
By the time all is said and done, its not going to make a difference one way or the other, most guys are going to end up in the same place - the airlines - and the guys who have the most jet time are going to get the job over the guy who flew freight, period.
DE727UPS
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"Getting sick of hearing that every young pilot looking for work is a dumbass who cannot possibly have the required skill"
Your words, not mine.
Again. Nothing against those taking the opportunity. I think the industry would be better off with higher standards and today's RJ Capts deserve better.
Your words, not mine.
Again. Nothing against those taking the opportunity. I think the industry would be better off with higher standards and today's RJ Capts deserve better.