ALPA charged with Unfair Labor Practices???

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Just heard this morning that a suit charging unfair labor practices has been filed against ALPA for violating Federal Labor law in the manner in which they fired a bunch of people recently.

Sounds like they bypassed the union contract and Federal law and may be liable for back wages, penalties and a bunch of other stuff. And will have to rehire the people they wrongfully fired.

All this on top of having walked away from the bargaining table and imposing a contract on their staff???

And ALPA is a LABOR union?

Who's running ALPA?

Some kind of example. Guess all the years of dealing with management have taught them some lessons on how to screw their own people.
 
IIRC ALPA was also paying its secretaries $60k+ a year and they wanted to strike sometime last year. Yes I know DC is a high cost of living area. But $60k?
 
IIRC ALPA was also paying its secretaries $60k+ a year and they wanted to strike sometime last year. Yes I know DC is a high cost of living area. But $60k?

I personally agree that while our members take paycuts, they're getting raises. Good grief.
 
Yup. 60k for a secretary job and we have our own members making less than 60k for a Captain, much less an FO slot?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

But, I know where this is headed.

Negotiating Capital.

They has some.
 
IIRC ALPA was also paying its secretaries $60k+ a year and they wanted to strike sometime last year. Yes I know DC is a high cost of living area. But $60k?

Careful with that though, it could easily be turned around as "XXX airline union was wanting to have it's regional pilots paid $60K+ a year, and they wanted to strike if they don't get it.....I mean, $60K?"

Labor is labor, whether or not they just happen to have the union as their "management". In this case, ALPA is management.
 
60K minus taxes don't buy or rent squat in DC.

That said, the people that got canned were senior contract administrators and senior folks in some of the support departments that provide services to pilots. Not secretaries.

The funny part; if you can call it that, is that Jalmer Johnson the ALPA General Manager makes over 460,000.00 a year, plus expenses and bennies like a car paid for by union dues. Yet he refused to join the in house union for years as a staffer. Bruce York, one of the others is a Senior Lawyer and has made his disdain for pilots known for a long time. He's making a nice check too while we have pilots starving. Same with Margeritta Lorenzetti, the Finance Director. And Kellie Collie, who fired one staffer who had a documented medical condition and was cleared to work at home, and regularly saved ALPA hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel costs. Kellie makes over $160,000 and bennies.

Personally, I'd rather pay a secretary 60K who busts their butt and has our best interests at heart over this group who seems to think they are entitled to massive paychecks paid for out of pilots pockets. 60K may seem high, but at least they understand what it means to work.

And they're not crapping on the heads of union members.
 
no, YOU'RE EVIL.

EVILER THAN GEORGE W. BUSH! EVIL-DOER!

You are eviler than this guy!

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Now why did you have to bring physical appearence into it? I realize you're not willing to jump into bed with me, yet. But I would much rather be just evil based on my mental judgments of various topics.
 
Now why did you have to bring physical appearence into it? I realize you're not willing to jump into bed with me, yet. But I would much rather be just evil based on my mental judgments of various topics.

Phht. Judge a person by what's on the inside? That's the beginning of a healthy relationship and I will have none of it sir.
 
IIRC ALPA was also paying its secretaries $60k+ a year and they wanted to strike sometime last year. Yes I know DC is a high cost of living area. But $60k?

No secretary at ALPA is making $60k. Under the UALPAPAE Unit 2 contract, one employee per office may make under $40k per year, and that person is almost always the secretary/receptionist. A typical salary would be about $30k-$35k for a secretary/receptionist. A senior MEC office secretary that acts more as an office manager for a very large MEC may make $45k-$50k.

That said, the people that got canned were senior contract administrators and senior folks in some of the support departments that provide services to pilots. Not secretaries.

This is true. The unfair labor practice filing that was upheld by the NLRB general counsel was filed by UALPAPAE Unit 1, which is the brach of the union that represents the professional staff, not the administrative staff. Secretaries are not included. They are in Unit 2, which already settled their contract last month. The employees in Unit 1 are attorneys, financial analysts, communications specialists, etc...

The funny part; if you can call it that, is that Jalmer Johnson the ALPA General Manager makes over 460,000.00 a year, plus expenses and bennies like a car paid for by union dues. Yet he refused to join the in house union for years as a staffer.

That's a pretty big exaggeration about how much Jalmer makes. Try slashing about $100k off of that figure. Still overpaid, in my opinion, but not quite to the degree that you're claiming.

Bruce York, one of the others is a Senior Lawyer and has made his disdain for pilots known for a long time. He's making a nice check too while we have pilots starving.

Bruce York having a "disdain" for pilots? This is just about the most absurd thing I've ever heard. I would wager that I've spent a hell of a lot more time working with Bruce than you have, and he's never been anything less than 110% supportive of pilots. He left ALPA for about 10 years to work for another union called AFTRA, and he ended up coming back because he missed working with the pilots and enjoyed his work with ALPA.

Same with Margeritta Lorenzetti, the Finance Director. And Kellie Collie, who fired one staffer who had a documented medical condition and was cleared to work at home, and regularly saved ALPA hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel costs. Kellie makes over $160,000 and bennies.

Am I the only one who thinks it's completely inappropriate to be naming names and engaging in what basically amounts to libel on a public forum? Doug, please take care of this. These ALPA staff members don't deserve the libelous attacks that this person is making.

I'm entirely supportive of the Unit 1 employees, but I don't see a need to attack the senior staff members in order to help the Unit 1 members. If you'd talk to the Unit 1 leaders, you'd find that they would not support your attacks on these employees, despite the current dispute. Your actions harm the efforts of Unit 1, not help.
 
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