AirlineApps: “Why Haven’t I Heard Anything”

Roger Roger said:
I think any discussion regarding people starting in the industry needs to include the reality that they shouldn’t count on doing this until 65. I’ll be shocked if I do.
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Also, need future pilots in 121 to know that there will be an end date, whether 65 or 67 (save that debate for another thread) and don’t be shocked, surprised and threaten age discrimination lawsuits when you’re time is up. You know what you were getting into when your started, and theoretically planned financially for that end date.
 
🦈💜 said:
They're not upset that they haven't made it to mainline (unlike the year prior)—they're upset at how they're being treated by the company, how they feel the whole career is a bait-and-switch, and how people think they're making a lot, but they're struggling to make ends meet.

I've flown with at least half a dozen who have said that they're trying to get right back out again.
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20 something’s who are making six figures are struggling to make ends meet?
 
mwflyer said:
20 something’s who are making six figures are struggling to make ends meet?
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Paying back student loans on a Bachelor's, $100k+ in flight training, and having a place to live? Yeah - $100k doesn't go too far. The average apartment rent is now over $20k/yr in the average US city. I sold my 7 year old car for what I paid for it NEW. They are more now.
 
mwflyer said:
20 something’s who are making six figures are struggling to make ends meet?
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"Six figures" is a phrase developed when houses cost five figures, tuition four, and rent three. It's purely an appeal to emotion, without any rational basis. Further, a lot of these FOs aren't making "six figures" in year two, while still paying "six figure" loans for their flight training.
 
CoffeeIcePapers said:
Literally none of that is true. Regional FOs start at 6 figures and CA pay is in the 200s. I just had an Envoy JS who was making 238/hr. People travel all over the world as junior regional pukes, lots of times in business class. Schedule is what your seniority can hold, but it’s a seniority based business.
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I'm on year 10 CA pay and I'm not making $200k. Schedule is what your seniority can hold, modified by the schedules available. And most of my FOs aren't making "six figures," which, as I replied to someone else, is a meaningless phrase.
 
CFI A&P said:
Also, need future pilots in 121 to know that there will be an end date, whether 65 or 67 (save that debate for another thread) and don’t be shocked, surprised and threaten age discrimination lawsuits when you’re time is up. You know what you were getting into when your started, and theoretically planned financially for that end date.
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or claim unemployment...anyway
 
drunkenbeagle said:
Paying back student loans on a Bachelor's, $100k+ in flight training, and having a place to live? Yeah - $100k doesn't go too far. The average apartment rent is now over $20k/yr in the average US city. I sold my 7 year old car for what I paid for it NEW. They are more now.
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And I know this should be obvious, but that's $20k in post-tax dollars, paid with $100k in pre-tax dollars, which is to say ~$70k in post-tax dollars. Throw in food, the cost of surviving on the road, maybe even crashpad, fuel costs to work and back, car costs for an inexpensive used car, there's not a lot left over. Add student loans on top of that, and then flight training costs, and they're in a world of hurt.

Some of the replies here very much have "It's one banana. How much could it cost? $10?" energy.
 
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