AirlineApps: “Why Haven’t I Heard Anything”

Were not going through this all again are we? Can we just link back to this dozens of other posts?
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What about an “efficient” pilot?😜

Ask me about my single engine taxi rates, APU usage, and fuel adds. I’m just really glad we don’t have the percentile app like Delta has. 😂

Were not going through this all again are we? Can we just link back to this dozens of other posts?

How is that any different than anything else discussed on JC? Would you rather have Beef and CC turn this into one of their 15 Alaska threads? Or the nonstop political asshattery in the lav? At least this way we’re talking about the career and hopefully trying to help someone with theirs if they’ll ever listen.
 
At least this way we’re talking about the career and hopefully trying to help someone with theirs if they’ll ever listen.

I was hoping that this thread - with some fun thrown in - would be talking about things like:

  • Experience levels - and correlating recent hiring ('21-'23) with historical hiring "norms". Where the industry has been, where it's going. How to temper and understand the cyclical nature of the career. (and how the overall predictive economic triggers diverged back in like '18-ish)
  • Retirement rates and growth and what that is going to do for industry movement. Both at the regional level and Majors... and how the different career pathways are going to affect where people land. (and how this is the same/different as the flight farms and mom & pop shops that promised us the world in the late 90's/early '00's)
  • Application pitfalls - from leveraging life experience out of the flight deck, networking, interview techniques, what to do when you get 5 minutes with the recruiters.
  • Mentorship - from both sides. How to be a good mentor. (or mentee) The right questions to ask, stories to tell, how to give advice without telling people what to do. How not to get frustrated when you aren't speaking the same language or when expectations aren't in sync with reality. How to get more involved in mentoring younger/newer pilots.
But, you know... it's the innertubes. We all do talk about this kind of stuff... it's just buried in bits and pieces within all the threads.
 
I was hoping that this thread - with some fun thrown in - would be talking about things like:

  • Experience levels - and correlating recent hiring ('21-'23) with historical hiring "norms". Where the industry has been, where it's going. How to temper and understand the cyclical nature of the career. (and how the overall predictive economic triggers diverged back in like '18-ish)
  • Retirement rates and growth and what that is going to do for industry movement. Both at the regional level and Majors... and how the different career pathways are going to affect where people land. (and how this is the same/different as the flight farms and mom & pop shops that promised us the world in the late 90's/early '00's)
  • Application pitfalls - from leveraging life experience out of the flight deck, networking, interview techniques, what to do when you get 5 minutes with the recruiters.
  • Mentorship - from both sides. How to be a good mentor. (or mentee) The right questions to ask, stories to tell, how to give advice without telling people what to do. How not to get frustrated when you aren't speaking the same language or when expectations aren't in sync with reality. How to get more involved in mentoring younger/newer pilots.
But, you know... it's the innertubes. We all do talk about this kind of stuff... it's just buried in bits and pieces within all the threads.
I think any discussion regarding people starting in the industry needs to include the reality that they shouldn’t count on doing this until 65. I’ll be shocked if I do.
 
I think any discussion regarding people starting in the industry needs to include the reality that they shouldn’t count on doing this until 65. I’ll be shocked if I do.
Also don’t be shocked if you’re allowed to do it until age 67+. (I think raising the retirement age is going to continue to be a threat)
 
Also don’t be shocked if you’re allowed to do it until age 67+. (I think raising the retirement age is going to continue to be a threat)
Oh, I don’t think anyone not in the industry now will work to 67. Maybe some of us will depending when and if they go single pilot for a while before full automation, but for a 20-some just getting started? No chance.
 
Man, I have about 11 years left and I’m already on a week-by-week evaluation if I’m going to show up on my next trip.
 
Man, I have about 11 years left and I’m already on a week-by-week evaluation if I’m going to show up on my next trip.

21 years left and I think that too, though it could just be the repetitive frozen Midwest overnights. I have got to start kneecapping pilots senior to me to get better trips…
 
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