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Chris_Ford
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Maximillian_Jenius said:
Just adding to txpilot's post...
Tommay85
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Maximillian_Jenius said:
2005-2006 Projected Individual Flight Training Cost
These are the projected costs for flight courses for the 2005-2006 school year based on anticipated rates(#).Course costs are based on the average number of hours it takes a student to complete the course, and may vary from student to student according to their capability and motivation. Financial aid may be available to assist with these costs,but applying for aid must be done well in advance.Flight costs are in addition to tuition,room and board.
SURVEY OF FLIGHT
AVIT 101
$ 5900
Instructor Time 70 hrs
S. E. Simulator 1.5 hrs
Warrior 25 hrs
PRIVATE PILOT
AVIT 102 Intro to Aviation
$ 7,800
Instructor Time 79 hrs
S. E. Simulator 3 hrs
Warrior 50 hrs
FAA Written COMMERCIAL, INSTRUMENT, AND MULTI-ENGINE
AVIT 221 Basic Attitude Instrument Flying
$ 5,793
Instructor Time 48 hrs
S. E. Simulator 13.5 hrs
Warrior 34.5 hrs
FAA Written AVIT 222 IFR Regulations & Procedures
$ 6,177
Instructor Time 65 hrs
S. E. Simulator 8.5 hrs
Warrior 34 hrs
FAA Written AVIT 323 Aerodynamics - Airplanes$ 5,672
Instructor Time 42 hrs
Warrior 6 hrs
Arrow 28.5 hrs
FAA Written AVIT 325 Multi-Engine Systems & Procedures$ 10,320*
Baron Option (10 hrs)$ 11,430
Instructor Time 69.5 hrs
M. E. Simulator 20 hrs
Seminole 29 hrs
FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR
AVIT 414 CFI Certification
$ 6,052*
Instructor Time 65 hrs
Decathlon 1.5 hrs
Warrior 16.5 hrs
Arrow 15 hrs
FAA Written AVIT 415 Instrument Flight Instructor (CFII)$ 4,286
Baron Option (6.5)$ 5,682
Instructor Time 50 hrs
S.E. Simulator 3.5 hrs
Warrior/SR20 22.5 hrs
FAA Written AVIT 416 Multi-Engine Flight Instructor$ 4,961*
Instructor Time 31 hrs
M.E. Simulator 1.5 hrs
Seminole 18 hrs
TAILWHEEL TRAINING
AVIT 386 Conventional Aircraft Operations
$1,070
Instructor Time 10 hrs
Super Cub 8 hrs
AEROBATIC TRAINING
AVIT 389 Intro to Aerobatic Flight
$ 1,666
Instructor Time 14 hrs
Decathlon 10 hrs
SEAPLANE CERTIFICATION
AVIT 385 Seaplane Certification
$ 2,847
Instructor Time 10 hrs
C182 Float Plane 13 hrs
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL COURSES***
AVIT 103 Intro into ATC
$ 400
ATC 2000Simulator AVIT 260 Tower Operations$ 490
Tower Simulator AVIT 261 Radar Operations I$ 1,250
ATC 2000 Simulator AVIT 362 Adv. Tower Operations$ 1,120
Tower Simulator AVIT 363 Radar Operations$ 1,250
ATC 2000 Simulator AVIT 464 Non-Radar Operations$ 1,120
Tower Simulator AVIT 465 ATC Radar & Tower Operations III$ 1,120
Tower Simulator REGIONAL JET FIXED TRAINING DEVICE LAB
AVIT 428 Transport Category Aircraft Systems
$ 275
AVIT 480 Advanced Aircraft Operations$ 2,800
ALTITUDE CHAMBER
AVIT 309 Chamber
$ 140
GATT II Trainer $ 65
*May increase if training done in optional aircraft type.
#Estimated course costs do not include potential fuel surcharge, which maybe implemented pending market conditions.
I dont know why that figures listed before say 15,000 for private, it's actually 7. The most expensive one is multi and I'm probably gona finish with only spending 9,000.
As far as getting ratings outside of UND, it has to be a part 141 school and you have to take a "test course". I think if you come here with your commercial, you can take a commercial test course and start from there. Same for the private. Im not sure if theres a test course for that instrument portion. I dont know how high up they allow you to go either.
Screaming_Emu
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Yeah, I'm sorry OC, but you're an idiot. I used to be pretty pissed off about a lot of things at this school, but then I figured out the problem with everything was me. You get out what you put in. Are things perfect? Not at all, but is not getting your temporary right away really going to make a difference? Your comment about the female instructors was amongst one of the dumbest things I've read on here, and that says something.
CaptainChris87
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FOR THE LAST TIME especially with people like Max_Jenius this is an ONLINE forum, why is someones intelligence judged by what is mistyped as long as the main idea is there and somewhat clear it should not even be flammed. People are bound to make mistakes while typing, if this were an English essay or a resume question would I misspell as much NO. so based on this idea how a persons language Eloquency ONLINE totally 100 percent represents how the person is then I guess online predators, are truly kind sincere friend searching people.
Back on topic:
theyre estimating $52,000 now for the comm av course it was estimated to be $46,000 when I signed up to go here. I paid about $9,500 for my ppl not 15,000. Adhil those are just flight costs look at overall expenses, tuition, room and board.
Back on topic:
theyre estimating $52,000 now for the comm av course it was estimated to be $46,000 when I signed up to go here. I paid about $9,500 for my ppl not 15,000. Adhil those are just flight costs look at overall expenses, tuition, room and board.
CaptainChris87
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Maximillian_Jenius said:
(NOt regarding grammar)
How do you know?! do you go here it seems like you know so much more about UND then someone whose spent 1 full year here. and adding to Tx pilot's post as well you hypocrite.
JaceTheAce
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Calm down now everybody 
sheesh! :insane:
sheesh! :insane:
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
NDviaEP said:
Anal bitches...it was 12am my time thats my excuse and I'm stickin too it!
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
CaptainChris87 said:
CaptainChris87 said:
Actually my post was more about your unintelligent manifesto,rambling and assumptions making it out like its UND vs. Chris and UND is winning. But more especially about you saying that CFI's are sleeping their way into positions and not getting hired based upon their own skill or knowledge.
I understand that you had a difficult time their but you need to step up and admit your mistakes in the equation and stop casting blame on everyone else but you. I'm not even at UND and I'm tired of it already. UAL747400 has admitted his mistake in his UND education and listed steps that he did to correct them and learn from them I can respect that. What have you done so far nothing but bitch,complain and point fingers.
Look I might seem like I'm an ass to you on the forum (because you make yourself an easy target) but I also care about you and want you to succeed in life and education. If I didn't care I wouldn't have called you when I heard bout the AIM incident to check you!
Chris_Ford
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Maximillian_Jenius said:
Fixed it for you.
Maximilian_Jenius
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Chris_Ford said:
Appreciate!
boeing 777-300
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an alternate route to going to an aviation college would be going to a regular college and flying at an FBO. This would save money and you could fly on your own schedule. After four years you will probably have the same thing as a UND grad:
1. Bachelor's degree
2. ratings through CFII or maybe MEI
yay
1. Bachelor's degree
2. ratings through CFII or maybe MEI
yay
AngelFuree
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You ALWAYS make the same mistakeMaximillian_Jenius said:Anal bitches...it was 12am my time thats my excuse and I'm stickin too it!
and I'll catch you again for it some other time
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
AngelFuree said:You ALWAYS make the same mistake
Ooooooh Angel is puttin me on notice...
KLB
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CaptainChris87 said:
That is better than the University I went to. Every time you un sat a stage check there, you went down a letter grade...........didn't matter if it was an oral or a flight. I always thought that it was the stupidest thing. If I failed a stage check, wouldn't it be just as much my instructor's fault (who gave me a signoff saying that I was prepared) as it is my fault? As a private pilot, sometimes I went into those orals just lost. Who's fault was it that I didn't know anything?
That was one of things that I did not like about the university program.
Dugie8
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KLB said:That is better than the University I went to. Every time you un sat a stage check there, you went down a letter grade...........didn't matter if it was an oral or a flight. I always thought that it was the stupidest thing. If I failed a stage check, wouldn't it be just as much my instructor's fault (who gave me a signoff saying that I was prepared) as it is my fault? As a private pilot, sometimes I went into those orals just lost. Who's fault was it that I didn't know anything?
Thats rought, one letter grade for an Unsat, daaaammmmnnnn. I see an idea, or way of thinking, that needs to be squashed real quick. When you (the student) Unsat any stage or checkride, etc, it is one persons fault, your own. Most instructors will not hail marry students to a stage check/checkride, just doesn't make sense to do so. None of the info you need to know is in a super secret uderground vault, guarded by Amazonian lesbian head hunters.
Especially in a university setting where you have ground school and ground lessons with your instructor, should anyone be unsatting stage checks, you couldn't ask for more information and resources.
But loosing a letter grade or any kind of points from groundschool, in my opinion, is just counter productive. It generates the mindset of students wanting to rote learn what they need to pass the check, and not actually "learning" the material to any kind of useful level. The biggest example I can show of this, is anytime someone says:
"I have so and so for stage, what do they like to ask about??"
KLB
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I just believe if the instructor didn't properly prepare me for stage check, he should have taken some of the blame for it.
If one of my students goes out and bust an oral on a checkride, it would be partially my fault. I signed on the dotted line saying that he/she was prepared and he/she was not...... I live by that and I haven't had a student bust an oral yet.
If one of my students goes out and bust an oral on a checkride, it would be partially my fault. I signed on the dotted line saying that he/she was prepared and he/she was not...... I live by that and I haven't had a student bust an oral yet.
hey guys can we get back to talking about UND...
can anyone please tell me whether i should take flight education or commercial aviaiton (which does not include mei but includes Altitude chamber lab and CRJ 200 FTD) to be employed as a pilot in an airline like emirates.
the question may be stupid to ask but im new to it as you'll know!
can anyone please tell me whether i should take flight education or commercial aviaiton (which does not include mei but includes Altitude chamber lab and CRJ 200 FTD) to be employed as a pilot in an airline like emirates.
the question may be stupid to ask but im new to it as you'll know!