AA/US-AW. Now the fun begins.

Just know it could be worse guys. You could now be at USAir/US Airways/American for over a quarter of a century and probably end up relatively near the bottom of the list.

Looks like the old man will retire as a FO...
 
CFIscare said:
Just know it could be worse guys. You could now be at USAir/US Airways/American for over a quarter of a century and probably end up relatively near the bottom of the list.

Looks like the old man will retire as a FO...
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The indignity!
 
AAPalmTree said:
What is USAPA doing now? They just announced they are not involved anymore in the SLI hearings.
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I am going to guess it has something to do with this little gem.

Accordingly, we reverse the district court’s conclusion that USAPA did not breach its duty of fair representation and remand with instructions to enjoin USAPA from participating in the McCaskill-Bond proceedings except to the extent that USAPA will advocate the Nicolau Award.
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@Seggy @ATN_Pilot
 
Not sure if this has been posted.
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L-16B said:
Are there furloughed airways guys with seniority numbers still?

I'm sure a lot of furloughed AA guys stay at jet blue. I'm sure it depends on how many years they have left, if they are captain, etc. I know a lot of 99 airways hires are there and at fedex. They would be stupid to come back.
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We've got a handful left that have some how managed to keep their numbers through some sort of sorcery. Most had the "Come back or give up your number" thing happen already. I think most wound up staying. We lost about 20 at one time when Delta recalls started, and we lost a decent chunk when AA started recalling. I know we still have quite a few with AA numbers, and from my non-scientific polling, it's about 50/50 on them staying.
 
If they staple the furloughed guys on the bottom like USAPA/West are offering then I bet most will stay.

AA is shrinking anyway. JetBlue is actually expanding and has a decent product. It would be crazy to leave jetBlue for AA.

Retirements be damned, AA is a sinking ship just like before. Too much ill will here IMO.
 
wheelsup said:
If they staple the furloughed guys on the bottom like USAPA/West are offering then I bet most will stay.

AA is shrinking anyway. JetBlue is actually expanding and has a decent product. It would be crazy to leave jetBlue for AA.

Retirements be damned, AA is a sinking ship just like before. Too much ill will here IMO.
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It's the "grass is always greener" syndrome. Personally, it'd be nuts for me to go anywhere. I'd LIKELY be able to hold 320 CA next year if I wanted to go back to commuting to JFK on reserve, so starting over at the bottom of a list is crazy talk for me, especially since I drive to work now. For a guy commuting from the west coast to LGB or JFK, I can see how it might be a wash if they had recall rights if their main focus was money and benefits. Who knows when our CBA will get done over here. I think we MIGHT be having negotiation meetings once a month. I get the ALPA e-mails, but so far they've mostly been explaining stuff I already know, like what section does what, rather than actual updates on what's going on.
 
kellwolf said:
It's the "grass is always greener" syndrome. Personally, it'd be nuts for me to go anywhere. I'd LIKELY be able to hold 320 CA next year if I wanted to go back to commuting to JFK on reserve, so starting over at the bottom of a list is crazy talk for me, especially since I drive to work now. For a guy commuting from the west coast to LGB or JFK, I can see how it might be a wash if they had recall rights if their main focus was money and benefits. Who knows when our CBA will get done over here. I think we MIGHT be having negotiation meetings once a month. I get the ALPA e-mails, but so far they've mostly been explaining stuff I already know, like what section does what, rather than actual updates on what's going on.
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Commuting to reserve is hell.

I will fly to Orlando and with my Star Wars Blaster and engage you in battle if you take that decision too lightly.
 
ctab5060X said:
Starting to really not like having to give up all the good we had at USAir...
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Welcome to teh suck.

But all is not lost. If there was something truly good, the following sequence is followed:

1) Policy/procedure changed so that the least number of pilots are affected. If policy/procedure was actually retained from the smaller carrier, larger carrier pilots will squawk about it until returned to original policy/procedure
2) If policy/procedure was truly better, it will languish in a cardboard box at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, guarded by a panther, in a basement with no stairs.
3) Eventually, a ladder climber will remember said procedure and retrieve it.
4) It will be dusted off and re-introduced, only given a different name, to fool the pilots from 1 into thinking it wasn't actually from the other carrier.

Seen. That. Show.

Richman
 
Richman said:
Welcome to teh suck.

But all is not lost. If there was something truly good, the following sequence is followed:

1) Policy/procedure changed so that the least number of pilots are affected. If policy/procedure was actually retained from the smaller carrier, larger carrier pilots will squawk about it until returned to original policy/procedure
2) If policy/procedure was truly better, it will languish in a cardboard box at the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, guarded by a panther, in a basement with no stairs.
3) Eventually, a ladder climber will remember said procedure and retrieve it.
4) It will be dusted off and re-introduced, only given a different name, to fool the pilots from 1 into thinking it wasn't actually from the other carrier.

Seen. That. Show.

Richman
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Just hope it doesn't take too long.

Some stuff feels like we've time travelled to the pre-jet age of airline flying :D
 
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