A pilot has been indicted for allegedly threatening to shoot the captain if the flight was diverted

[derg]

If I recall you shared that experience with another FO who was married our former ALPA LRC.

I do not want to ever go to the "Big Brown Desk" ever again. It literally changed how I deal with moronic captains entirely.

FO: "I'm not the captain, the captain has ultimate authority"
FAA: "LOL. You got jokes. Don't confuse authority with responsibility."

 

[derg]

"It all happened so fast! You can hear me on the CVR saying 'woah, let's slow down!'...and I *resent* the unproven and *baseless* allegation that this was in to my cellphone to my girlfriend, who, yes, *does* occasionally earn some extra money at the 'Cat's Meow Club', which is *no way* germane to this hearing..."

Hilarious BUT they probably wouldn't legally be able to query the CVR in a non-accident situation.

 

[BobDDuck]

Hilarious BUT they probably wouldn't legally be able to query the CVR in a non-accident situation.

I'd bet they have all the data they'd need to hang a crew from the FDR and FOQA Dara channels. Which mostly became unprotected when they launched that Pulse (I think?) app.

 

[derg]

Fully agree, which is why I warn my friends about the "ANONYMOUS" but not "anonymous surveys

 

[SurferLucas]

Fully agree, which is why I warn my friends about the "ANONYMOUS" but not "anonymous surveys

Uniform surveys are not times to rail on the company CEO

 

[ShortField]

Nope. Or at least it isn't procedure to.

*anymore. I think that went away maybe 3 or 4 years ago.

 

[derg]

Uniform surveys are not times to rail on the company CEO

Pilots are super good at flying airplanes.

That’s about it.

But when it comes to navigating corporate America, purely freaking idiotic.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Pilots are super good at flying airplanes.

That’s about it.

But when it comes to navigating corporate America, purely freaking idiotic.

In fairness, corporate America is itself pretty dumb too.

 

[Murdoughnut]

In fairness, corporate America is itself pretty dumb too.

I can tell you who doesn’t understand communications and strategy … whoever the NetJets pilots were who thought it was a good idea to film a video to push to the public on their need for a new contract … from their flotilla of private boats.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Let me tell you about my trip to the "Big Brown Desk".

If you have a type rating, the FAA will literally ask:

"I see that you're a type-rated 767 first officer"

"Yessir"

"Was that an SIC type rating?"

"No sir"

"A PIC type rating?"

"Yes"

"So, as a PIC type rated first officer, you let your captain do (something moronic?)"

"Well, he's the captain but I said..."

"YOWER CAPTAIN QUALIFIED, SON, let me ask again..."


ALPA attorney in the room, ALPA representatives in the room, company chief pilot in the room, HR in the room, FAA in the room: "Answer the question"

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Pilots are super good at flying airplanes.

That’s about it.

Some can’t even do that. And then you add “let me tell you about extra votes that shouldn’t have counted…”

 

[ERfly]

Just be thankful you don't fly at a place that does things because that's how it's done on another fleet.

"Continue"

 

[mikecweb]

"Continue"

...."Continue"

 

[DPApilot]

Just be thankful you don't fly at a place that does things because that's how it's done on another fleet.

Cries in Airbus here.

 

[DPApilot]

Generally I’ve found that the vets who actually did cool stuff have been fantastic. The ones who drove a bus and never left the US are the ones who struggle with the fact that their previous experience means very little.

100% this.

 

[Oxman]

Not a good career move.

 

[bLizZuE]

Not a good career move.

But it was a career move.

 

[BobDDuck]

...."Continue"

You guys too, huh?

 

[mikecweb]

You guys too, huh?

Our's gets special with the EFVS approach. Where one might say continue twice, no call of stable anywhere, and possibly a advisory "E-Fess" lights call as well. When i started here we used to say "landing" and i thought that was super dumb, somehow we found something more pointless to say.

 

[Richman]

Let me tell you about my trip to the "Big Brown Desk".

If you have a type rating, the FAA will literally ask:

"I see that you're a type-rated 767 first officer"

"Yessir"

"Was that an SIC type rating?"

"No sir"

"A PIC type rating?"

"Yes"

"So, as a PIC type rated first officer, you let your captain do (something moronic?)"

"Well, he's the captain but I said..."

"YOWER CAPTAIN QUALIFIED, SON, let me ask again..."


ALPA attorney in the room, ALPA representatives in the room, company chief pilot in the room, HR in the room, FAA in the room: "Answer the question"

"Hmmmm, now might be a good time for a break. Water anyone?"