767 Lands on Taxiway M at ATL

[cloudman]

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Originally Posted by bLizZuE
Again!?

I find it extremely good advice to always have a final course guidance active. Localizer, gps, vor, anything that will alert you should you line up for the wrong runway, or even a taxiway. Especially at large, parrallel dominant airports.

The problem is, those guidance helpers may not have the accuracy to differentiate between a runway and close taxiway. It really comes down to just double checking what you're lined up on. Runway markings in the day vs taxiway markings; white lights vs blue lights at night.

One good thing for airports to do is what KTUS does: For day ops, KTUS on RW29R, the parallel taxiway A's taxiway line from the beginning at A1 to almost A2 starts out as a yellow squiggly line with the large letters T-A-X-I reading up the taxiway. Shown here (zoom into the approach end of RW 29R and see):

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&s...code_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ8gEwAA

I say they were debating the bikini selection at the beach.:bandit:

 

[pullup]

Yeah, no need to collect the facts or anything first.

The only fact we have is they landed on a taxiway. I don't feel they should be fired, but if they were sidestepped, etc they are still responible for landing on the correct runway. No excuses here.

 

[ozone]

Correct me if I am wrong, but i recall during my primary training that, technically, one can land on a taxiway. Can't find any FAR/AIM stuff regarding this NOW of course, but I do recall my instructor mentioning something about the taxiway being "fair game" since it was part of the aircraft movement area or some such thing....and he said it was, for obvious reasons, not recommended but technically not illegal either.

 

[wheelsup]

Correct me if I am wrong, but i recall during my primary training that, technically, one can land on a taxiway. Can't find any FAR/AIM stuff regarding this NOW of course, but I do recall my instructor mentioning something about the taxiway being "fair game" since it was part of the aircraft movement area or some such thing....and he said it was, for obvious reasons, not recommended but technically not illegal either.

If they were cleared to land on a taxiway than sure, however were they cleared to land and did they do it intentionally? If so I would think the media would be told as such and they'd still be flying, and there'd be no discussion.

Just sayin'

 

[wheelsup]

Yeah, no need to collect the facts or anything first.

You're right, an immediate call for firing is not the way to go about it. I certainly think everyone should be given he benefit of the doubt as I screw up too. However IMO I think planting it on a taxiway is in a different league of missing a crossing restriction, etc. etc. Maybe it's not, I dunno.

As far as our guy getting fired, I see what you are saying but it just doesn't apply in his case.

 

[ozone]

If they were cleared to land on a taxiway than sure, however were they cleared to land and did they do it intentionally? If so I would think the media would be told as such and they'd still be flying, and there'd be no discussion.

Just sayin'

Again, TECHNICALLY, and just for argument's sake, as PIC, don't you still have the final decision authority as to where you put your plane? So, again for argument's sake only, if the pilot decided that the taxiway looked like a better spot, could he or she not over-ride the ATC clearance for the runway and put the plane down on the taxiway? Obviously, they would have some explaining to do thereafter, but still.....

 

[mshunter]

Again, TECHNICALLY, and just for argument's sake, as PIC, don't you still have the final decision authority as to where you put your plane? So, again for argument's sake only, if the pilot decided that the taxiway looked like a better spot, could he or she not over-ride the ATC clearance for the runway and put the plane down on the taxiway? Obviously, they would have some explaining to do thereafter, but still.....

Sure, but you better have a DAMN GOOD reason why you landed on the taxiway thats right next to, and is pointed the same direction as, the runway you were cleared to land on. It's an emergency, do what you have to to save as many lives as possible.