757 A/T failure

JordanD said:
I spent plenty of time in the GA world building time.
I like my job, quite a bit. But it’s a job now. When my commute blocks in I can’t be bothered to really care about anything to do with airplanes.
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This honestly makes me sad. And I’m sure you are still a very safe and competent pilot. But I don’t understand pilots that aren’t wide eyed on every takeoff.

There are airmen and there are pilots: the first being part bird whose view from aloft is normal and comfortable, a creature whose brain and muscles frequently originate movements which suggest flight; and then there are pilots who regardless of their airborne time remain earth-loving bipeds forever. When these latter unfortunates, because of one urge or another, actually make an ascension, they neither anticipate nor relish the event and they drive their machines with the same graceless labor they inflict upon the family vehicle.

Ernest K. Gann
 
Wardogg said:
This honestly makes me sad. And I’m sure you are still a very safe and competent pilot. But I don’t understand pilots that aren’t wide eyed on every takeoff.

There are airmen and there are pilots: the first being part bird whose view from aloft is normal and comfortable, a creature whose brain and muscles frequently originate movements which suggest flight; and then there are pilots who regardless of their airborne time remain earth-loving bipeds forever. When these latter unfortunates, because of one urge or another, actually make an ascension, they neither anticipate nor relish the event and they drive their machines with the same graceless labor they inflict upon the family vehicle.

Ernest K. Gann
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It’s a fun job, but it’s still a job. I always prefer the go home leg over the first leg of the trip.
 
CoffeeIcePapers said:
It’s a fun job, but it’s still a job. I always prefer the go home leg over the first leg of the trip.
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Two more crossings before I get to go home. I reached "I WANT TO GO HOME NOW" somewhere near the Oakland Oceanic and Oakland Center boundaries with this week's Captain.

I love it and I do enjoy the hell out of it, especially now that I'm on God's airplane—I commute to the thing because I want to, even with equipment types I could drive to (and this, here, is an aerogeek indulgence: when else am I going to get to fly the 757 or 767 again? yes, I will commute to this thing, willingly!).

But for the first time in my adult life (except for a brief period in the Bay Area and never the frak mind about all that) I have a home life that I am over-the-moon happy with, with people I really like being with, in a place that I really like being, and it's imparted a bit of a perspective on it too. I still like this, but I also really like being home. :) Oh, and it pays for that home. Neat.

Wardogg said:
But I don’t understand pilots that aren’t wide eyed on every takeoff.
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This is fun, but compared to some other kinds of flying, it's...really not that fun. Don't get me wrong, it's a lot more fun than being at zero feet and zero knots at Amazon or Apple or whatever, but it's not THAT fun in flying terms.

In the flying respect the regional job was a lot more "fun," especially in a certain turboprop airplane. But I was too tired and too broke to truly enjoy it, or have a work-life balance.

I love reading a Gann novel or memoir, but the reality is I got into this for the love of airplanes, but I stay for the money. And trust me, I've witnessed plenty in the way of graceless, lubberly flying over my career and it makes me twitch a little every time I see it, but the reality is the Air Line thinks that's good enough, so...
 
I absolutely love flying, love my airplane, and some days, like the place I work at. I feel extremely lucky to sit left seat in my dream airplane. Most days it’s a dream come true. I also have achieved every goal I set out to when I dreamed of doing this at 6-7 years old. So when there’s 7 MEL’s and something else just broke and I’m expanding my team and no one seems to be wanting to work today and the weather is turning to • and extensions and the union drama is tearing us apart, yea it’s a job. I rather be on my boat exploring the Salish Sea where i choose my team and destination and go home day.
 
Jordan793 said:
love the people I work with
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See I just don’t get this in the airlines. Not that I hate my coworkers or anything, but you never fly with the same people enough to really get to know them and let’s be honest, we spend the overwhelming majority of our time with the person in the seat next to us and a lot of us are pretty weird and not in a cool way. I had a great captain this last trip, union rep, PBS guru/committee member, bought dinner AND Starbucks, and just generally pleasant to be around. But with nearly 200 captains in the base my odds of flying with him again are low, and we’re a small base. And if you have any FAs who are cool, at Eskimo either you’ll only have them for 1 leg (after which point my goldfish brain completely forgets them) or at the least you overnight at a different hotel and will probably never fly with them again because we mix and match crews so much. I already posted about it but it just doesn’t compare to the camaraderie at the last job.
 
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Roger Roger said:
See I just don’t get this in the airlines. Not that I hate my coworkers or anything, but you never fly with the same people enough to really get to know them and let’s be honest, we spend the overwhelming majority of our time with the person in the seat next to us and a lot of us are pretty weird and not in a cool way. And even if you have any FAs who are cool, at Eskimo either you’ll only have them for 1 leg (after which point my goldfish brain completely forgets them) or at the least you overnight at a different hotel and will probably never fly with them again because we mix and match crews so much. I already posted about it but it just doesn’t compare to the camaraderie at the last job.
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Yeah, I definitely had more fun flying 135, but I also had a lot more problems to deal with for less pay, so I guess it's all relative. This is the best job I have ever had. The vast majority of the captains I fly with, I have very little in common with, but it's fun to pick their brain and see what makes them tick. Our narrowbody overnights mostly suck, so I end up slam clicking more than I like, but it is what it is.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
…do they have one of those bases in, say, Bremerton? :)

I’m not looking but that honestly sounds like a hoot.
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Funny enough the UW medical program does (or did?) have a helo base at PWT. The thing of it is that of course a lot of what made it so good was (is, I still hang out with the gang when I can [we have a DND game going]) the people and you can’t recreate that on purpose. Not to bash the previous employer though, to give them credit they did (grudgingly, to be sure) make quite a few improvements over the years I was there that really helped too.
 
Roger Roger said:
See I just don’t get this in the airlines. Not that I hate my coworkers or anything, but you never fly with the same people enough to really get to know them and let’s be honest, we spend the overwhelming majority of our time with the person in the seat next to us and a lot of us are pretty weird and not in a cool way. I had a great captain this last trip, union rep, PBS guru/committee member, bought dinner AND Starbucks, and just generally pleasant to be around. But with nearly 200 captains in the base my odds of flying with him again are low, and we’re a small base. And if you have any FAs who are cool, at Eskimo either you’ll only have them for 1 leg (after which point my goldfish brain completely forgets them) or at the least you overnight at a different hotel and will probably never fly with them again because we mix and match crews so much. I already posted about it but it just doesn’t compare to the camaraderie at the last job.
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Flying international, we’ll go out together 99% of the time so there’s definitely more of a camaraderie IMO than on the domestic side.. Never flew 135/91 so I don’t know
 
Roger Roger said:
See I just don’t get this in the airlines. Not that I hate my coworkers or anything, but you never fly with the same people enough to really get to know them and let’s be honest, we spend the overwhelming majority of our time with the person in the seat next to us and a lot of us are pretty weird and not in a cool way. I had a great captain this last trip, union rep, PBS guru/committee member, bought dinner AND Starbucks, and just generally pleasant to be around. But with nearly 200 captains in the base my odds of flying with him again are low, and we’re a small base. And if you have any FAs who are cool, at Eskimo either you’ll only have them for 1 leg (after which point my goldfish brain completely forgets them) or at the least you overnight at a different hotel and will probably never fly with them again because we mix and match crews so much. I already posted about it but it just doesn’t compare to the camaraderie at the last job.
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The upside is you if don’t really want to fly with someone, the next trip is a complete refresh and at least where I work, 99.5% of the flying is standardized and the same. When I flew 91/135 and ESPECIALLY in the contract world, everyone flew the same planes completely different. There was no standardization which for me was highly stressful and not fun at all. And yea we hung out more but I like a mix of social and not social. I do breakfast always on my own, no one needs to see how much bacon I eat. There always seemed to be an obligation to do everything together in 91/135.
 
Jordan793 said:
Flying international, we’ll go out together 99% of the time so there’s definitely more of a camaraderie IMO than on the domestic side.. Never flew 135/91 so I don’t know
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Yeah, it was extremely rare on an international layover to not go out together and more often than not at least one round—and sometimes all of dinner—was at Captain's expense. A different airline.

Sometimes, though, you just want to sit in your hotel room and veg. Or you're tired of the guy you're flying with calling everywhere you have lived a "liberal sh•thole" and, in the words of @derg you just go do Black Guy Stuff(R) instead. It's fun to be social with people you vibe with, and it's also fun for me to have a good time by myself.

mikecweb said:
When I flew 91/135 and ESPECIALLY in the contract world, everyone flew the same planes completely different.
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This always blows my mind a little bit, but having been through an FSI initial and CAE recurrent, it makes a lot of sense.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
This always blows my mind a little bit, but having been through an FSI initial and CAE recurrent, it makes a lot of sense.
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It mostly comes from folks carrying over what they did in their last type to their current type or the bigger operators deviating from the manufacturers checklist for commonality with othee aircraft in the fleet or FAA certificate compliance. It can be a hodgepodged mess.
 
I finally listened to the audio and all I can say is “yikes on bikes”. I love the foot stomp from the duty pilot. There’s a lot to dissect but the reality is every place has a few pilots that will f up something as simple as a “Baro Disagree” so I can’t cast stones.

I know I’m a day late and a dollar short 🤦‍♂️.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
There’s a video on YouTube from a United 757/767 guy who takes his 23 yr old FOs out on a layover in England. Sees a tower on a hill, tells one FO that is the Eiffel Tower in Paris. She literally thinks it’s real before then wondering can one in fact see the Eiffel Tower from London.


These kids, growing up so fast and flying their “ERs” across the world. No clue the distance between London and Paris. Just, once in a while, please open up a damn world map.
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That’s not a child problem, that’s an adult problem.

I know a couple teenagers headed to college that literally were taught in school that you can’t stand on the equator because the earth spins so fast at that point and you’d be dizzy.

Florida schools, man.
 
derg said:
That’s not a child problem, that’s an adult problem.

I know a couple teenagers headed to college that literally were taught in school that you can’t stand on the equator because the earth spins so fast at that point and you’d be dizzy.

Florida schools, man.
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Conservative tactics: destroy funding for public education or divert it via vouchers to rich jackasses to send their kids to private school, then complain it doesn’t work. “We’re still looking for the guy who did this”
 
derg said:
That’s not a child problem, that’s an adult problem.

I know a couple teenagers headed to college that literally were taught in school that you can’t stand on the equator because the earth spins so fast at that point and you’d be dizzy.

Florida schools, man.
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Everybody knows that only happens on the poles!!!
 
derg said:
That’s not a child problem, that’s an adult problem.

I know a couple teenagers headed to college that literally were taught in school that you can’t stand on the equator because the earth spins so fast at that point and you’d be dizzy.

Florida schools, man.
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For all we know she could have been playing coy with the captain to sooth his ego honestly. I wouldn't be shocked if she was...
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Conservative tactics: destroy funding for public education or divert it via vouchers to rich jackasses to send their kids to private school, then complain it doesn’t work. “We’re still looking for the guy who did this”
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Money isn’t going to fix that problem.
 
KLB said:
For all we know she could have been playing coy with the captain to sooth his ego honestly. I wouldn't be shocked if she was...
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Oh he was pretty insistent, then called over his big sister for backup. Ha! :)

Don’t spend thanksgiving in Florida with family. It’s always weird.
 
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