250 below 10k…

[CFI A&P]

Pffft. Who needs it. My Cezzner's ARC radios had automatic radial centering.

Was that feature available near TCUs and with LTG ALQDS?

 

[pwttogfk]

I know cause half the time those countries airlines coughlufthansacough check in with me level at 7,000 and 340kts cause that’s what they were last assigned

I routinely assign 210 or greater at 2000’ going into some of those airports as well.

So you’re one of those…

I’ve been number last into some of the outlying airports in the NYC area after refusing to bust this FAR. Had a controller in FL try to tell me he was authorizing me to go above 200 and that trumped the FAR. I wish it did. I really do. But it’s pretty black and white and while I’d be inclined to ASAP and chill if I had it…I don’t have ASAP at my current job.

 

[Richman]

Was that feature available near TCUs and with LTG ALQDS?

Not relevant, since you were going anyway.

 

[SurferLucas]

Made better by the fact that the ATC doesn’t have to advise you that you are leaving B when your destination is not the primary bravo airport. Say you’re going into PDK,SRQ, TEB,MMU,FRG etc , they can and will descend you under the floor and not say a peep.

That ATL north corridor rumor has it is a hot zone for 200 below B busts.

My fav is SNA, personally…

PAE was another “joy”

 

[///AMG]

I don’t get the pro-crowd on that one. Manual clearly states and allows 200 kts or clean maneuver speed. I do the latter. These are FAA-approved manuals.

Some people just hate having more fuel

 

[///AMG]

My fav is SNA, personally…

PAE was another “joy”

Fun fact.....SEA can be on South flow and PAE can be on north flow at the same time (and NUW will do whatever it wants at the same time). I guess that is probably the example that doesn't involve your "joy" though

 

[SurferLucas]

Fun fact.....SEA can be on South flow and PAE can be on north flow at the same time (and NUW will do whatever it wants at the same time). I guess that is probably the example that doesn't involve your "joy" though

Oh I’ve had days flying into PAE back in the E175, doing the RNAV 34L while SEA traffic is above landing south.

Didn’t like landing south at PAE, because they’d slide you under the B and slow you down.

 

[NovemberEcho]

So you’re one of those…

Well, if you tell me you need 200 cause of the B I don’t argue. I may call you a • under my breath though =P

 

[pwttogfk]

Well, if you tell me you need 200 cause of the B I don’t argue. I may call you a • under my breath though =P

 

[ClearedForOption]

But are you really ever below 10k long enough that it would save you anything more than a couple minutes? (Short of low altitude SWAP routes)

The only one I can think of is that route that I get (AzulNorte) from the islands to EWR (22Late) through McGuire and that tour of Eastern Penn that seems to drag on longer than the 3 hr flight up to that point. I mean, I feel qualified to sell real estate down there because I've seen all the neighborhoods up close. (There are some pretty well-to-do families down there)

 

[NovemberEcho]

The only one I can think of is that route that I get (AzulNorte) from the islands to EWR (22Late) through McGuire and that tour of Eastern Penn that seems to drag on longer than the 3 hr flight up to that point. I mean, I feel qualified to sell real estate down there because I've seen all the neighborhoods up close. (There are some pretty well-to-do families down there)

Yeah that one sucks. They drop you early to get below PHL/DC Area/BWI arrivals/departures

 

[Old Pete]

Worst. Rule. Ever.

I once heard an exchange between a ATL satellite controller and I think a king Air
Atc: say speed. Ac 230 atc: why aren’t you 200? KA you didn’t assign it. Atc: don’t have to, it’s regulatory.

 

[fholbert]

Raise your hand if you flew as a pilot under the old airspace classification before the Class system was adopted……

 

[fholbert]

Raise your hand if you flew as a pilot under the old airspace classification before the Class system was adopted……

Raise you hand if you know why a pilot would squawk 1400.

 

[NovemberEcho]

I once heard an exchange between a ATL satellite controller and I think a king Air
Atc: say speed. Ac 230 atc: why aren’t you 200? KA you didn’t assign it. Atc: don’t have to, it’s regulatory.

That controller should be taken behind the scope and beaten with a headset

 

[Old Pete]

Raise your hand if you flew as a pilot under the old airspace classification before the Class system was adopted……

And use LORAN

Personally, despised the Mid-continent LORAN gap, pathetic

 

[Roger Roger]

The difference between .80 and .76 on a 500 nm trip is hardly noticeable. I can’t imagine giving a single eff about the 250 below 10 rule.

 

[typhoonpilot]

A very respected Zimbabwean TRE at EK preached 250 below 15,000 in Africa. Some big birds that fly high was his rationale.'

 

[NovemberEcho]

The difference between .80 and .76 on a 500 nm trip is hardly noticeable. I can’t imagine giving a single eff about the 250 below 10 rule.

It can make a huge difference for hitting gaps and not getting the final spaced out meaning not having to hold

 

[ahw01]

It can make a huge difference for hitting gaps and not getting the final spaced out meaning not having to hold

Max fwd speed ya ding dong.