200 knots below Class B and NY airspace

[Roger Roger]

It’s funny to me what rules pilots are willing to break and what rules they will not break when they’re all in the same book. I’ve never met a pilot that followed 121.542. I’ve met one pilot, and only one, who followed 121.333. Every single pilot I’ve met follows (or attempts to follow) 91.117. I know it’s the normalization of deviance, but it’s just interesting how normal most of it has become.

And if your normalization is different from someone else’s, you’re either a dangerous cowboy or a loser.

 

[gotWXdagain]

Exactly what I meant. You guys work too hard. Let the planes slow, let the delays build. That’s likely the only way things will change.

This.

I’m a big proponent of following stupid rules to a T, for the only reason of showing the rulemaker just how stupid said rule is.

 

[DE727UPS]

Exactly what I meant. You guys work too hard. Let the planes slow, let the delays build. That’s likely the only way things will change.

What it means is his supe will have to get off his lazy ass and actually work traffic. We can't have rich people in bizjets holding....

 

[DE727UPS]

This.

I’m a big proponent of following stupid rules to a T, for the only reason of showing the rulemaker just how stupid said rule is.

I'd rather be a knowledgeable deviant cause it's easier. But I like how you think.

 

[jynxyjoe]

Just a FAA employee advocating everyone just forget about this FAR because “New York”

Hey you should have seen when I said don't goto the published missed in JFK or any airport without clearance. Because you don't. Then I said we'll tower has an LOAwith center, said not true, and a tower controller said yes we do. Like idk man.

Just slow and tell them.

 

[Stone Cold]

It’s funny to me what rules pilots are willing to break and what rules they will not break when they’re all in the same book. I’ve never met a pilot that followed 121.542. I’ve met one pilot, and only one, who followed 121.333. Every single pilot I’ve met follows (or attempts to follow) 91.117. I know it’s the normalization of deviance, but it’s just interesting how normal most of it has become.

Do you have a translation for those regs for us lazy, off duty pilots? I'm ASSuming one of them is the O2 reg...

 

[Ian_J]

Do you have a translation for those regs for us lazy, off duty pilots? I'm ASSuming one of them is the O2 reg...

For you, anything. Sterile/O2/Speeds

 

[ppragman]

For you, anything. Sterile/O2/Speeds

A wise man told me you have to know the rules so you know what to say when you get caught breaking them.

 

[CFI A&P]

A wise man told me you have to know the rules so you know what to say when you get caught breaking them.

A friend of mine says "Don't think of regulations as telling you what you can't do, think of what the FAA will let you do."

 

[Roger Roger]

A friend of mine says "Don't think of regulations as telling you what you can't do, think of what the FAA will let you do."

I’m a sovereign citizen, I’m not flying I’m journeying, my rights!

 

[jynxyjoe]

I’m a sovereign citizen, I’m not flying I’m journeying, my rights!

Don't you start that crap.

 

[Bandit_Driver]

Found it

Resources - Notices - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov

 

[z987k]

Found it

Resources - Notices - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov

And if the G/S takes you below the B....
"Normally, the glide slope angle and altitude for a given runway"

Until it doesn't depending on pressure that day.

 

[T/O w/FSII]

Found it

Resources - Notices - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov

Doesn’t do much for me and the 500 other private jets going into TEB on sundays (doing 250, 2kAGL for 25 miles). Or LGB. Or VNY. Or anywhere else under a B for that matter.

 

[ppragman]

I’m a sovereign citizen, I’m not flying I’m journeying, my rights!

Technically I'm not flying, I'm performing intrastate commerce! Plessy v. Ferguson, Plessy v. Ferguson!!! The department of transportation is an Abraham Lincoln conspiracy!

 

[ppragman]

Doesn’t do much for me and the 500 other private jets going into TEB on sundays (doing 250, 2kAGL for 25 miles). Or LGB. Or VNY. Or anywhere else under a B for that matter.

How are you doing 250 under the bravo?

 

[ppragman]

And if the G/S takes you below the B....
"Normally, the glide slope angle and altitude for a given runway"

Until it doesn't depending on pressure that day.

Wasn't there an enforcement action that kept occuring in LA about this? Something about mandatory crossing altitudes and coupled ILS approaches too?

 

[NovemberEcho]

How are you doing 250 under the bravo?

well, they descend to an altitude that is below the shelf and set the throttles in such a way that the thrust provided propels the aircraft through the air at a speed equivalent to 250 nautical miles per hour. But that’s not important right now.

 

[ppragman]

well, they descend to an altitude that is below the shelf and set the throttles in such a way that the thrust provided propels the aircraft through the air at a speed equivalent to 250 nautical miles per hour. But that’s not important right now.

Laughs in 91.117

 

[T/O w/FSII]

How are you doing 250 under the bravo?

You do realize that’s the entire point of this thread right?