whysoserial
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Anyone ever do it? Anyone ever heard of it? Anyone?
It's been a few years since I've taught people to fly and before that there has never been a sentence in a book about it. Ya, they teach you how to avoid it but that's all I've seen.
I've seen too many pilots get hosed with wake turbulence delays and they have no idea there's an out. They have no idea they are getting hosed. They sit holding short of the runway for a predetermined amount of time burning time...fuel...money. Most of them have no idea how long they have to wait, they just accept it.
Yeah, it's not always prudent to waive the wake turbulence but sometimes it's a waste of time and the rules say we need to make you wait.
Assume we're in a C172 or similar aircraft.
If a Heavy or B757 has departed a runway you aren't going to go for at least 2 minutes from the full length, 3 minutes if you are at an intersection. You also can't waive it. You can ask, but you won't get it.
Now, if you are departing an intersection (at least 500ft or more from the end of the runway) and you see a little 'ol King Air depart from the full length, you are going to sit for 3 minutes. That's a waste.
Waive it. We want you gone as much as you want you gone. What gets me is some of these folks are pissed that they have to wait.
Anyways, if it's not a Heavy or B757 and you think you can avoid it, waive the delay...we'll get back to you with a shorter delay only because we are stunned that someone is actually asking for it.
Oh and a little side note. When we deny your request for an intersection or opposite direction, sometimes we are doing you a favor. Take a look and see what is about to depart full length or what has just departed. Don't get grumpy at us.
Anyways, if you already knew this, feel free to reply with the "DUH!" comments or "it's not worth it" or "what's the rush?" or anything like that. I was more curious if people are even aware of this little nugget.
It's been a few years since I've taught people to fly and before that there has never been a sentence in a book about it. Ya, they teach you how to avoid it but that's all I've seen.
I've seen too many pilots get hosed with wake turbulence delays and they have no idea there's an out. They have no idea they are getting hosed. They sit holding short of the runway for a predetermined amount of time burning time...fuel...money. Most of them have no idea how long they have to wait, they just accept it.
Yeah, it's not always prudent to waive the wake turbulence but sometimes it's a waste of time and the rules say we need to make you wait.
Assume we're in a C172 or similar aircraft.
If a Heavy or B757 has departed a runway you aren't going to go for at least 2 minutes from the full length, 3 minutes if you are at an intersection. You also can't waive it. You can ask, but you won't get it.
Now, if you are departing an intersection (at least 500ft or more from the end of the runway) and you see a little 'ol King Air depart from the full length, you are going to sit for 3 minutes. That's a waste.
Waive it. We want you gone as much as you want you gone. What gets me is some of these folks are pissed that they have to wait.
Anyways, if it's not a Heavy or B757 and you think you can avoid it, waive the delay...we'll get back to you with a shorter delay only because we are stunned that someone is actually asking for it.
Oh and a little side note. When we deny your request for an intersection or opposite direction, sometimes we are doing you a favor. Take a look and see what is about to depart full length or what has just departed. Don't get grumpy at us.
Anyways, if you already knew this, feel free to reply with the "DUH!" comments or "it's not worth it" or "what's the rush?" or anything like that. I was more curious if people are even aware of this little nugget.