Well, I can see this is going to take a while. So here we go...
 
	
		
	
	
		
		
			1) The WATER thing! It just seemed a slap in the face. The pilots and F/A's are giving 100% of their lives for this place.
		
		
	 
 
And getting very little in return. They work for minimum wage and you work for LESS than a Regional RJ driver makes. 50% less in some case. And you're operating an airplane TWICE as big.
 
	
	
		
		
			For now, it is what it is.
		
		
	 
 
Because you allow yourself to be abused. In fact, you volunteered for it. 
 
	
	
		
		
			2) Pay. O.K., I and others knew that when we started. Did we know the work rules? NO. They did not invent them until after we were on the line. Also, profit sharing, and stock options are the big players here. So I can't complain too much. It's the pay now, or the big pay-off later question. Only time can tell. The big problem is the First Officers. All of them have only a limited amount of time they can stay at 30K/year. After that, they have to eat, make car payments, and live.
		
		
	 
 
THE PAY IN CERTAINLY NOT OK! You're undercutting an entire industry, don't you understand that? Every day you show up for work, you're stabbing the rest of us in the back, even the regional guys. How long do you think it will be before the Regionals want to cut their pay. The majors look at guys like you who will work for anything and it becomes their goal to match your wage/benefit scale.
 
And considering your shabby outfit is losing money, how's that profit sharing check working out? And your second year pay raise?
 
	
	
		
		
			3) How did I come to Skybus? I had been trying for YEARS and one day Skybus called...I live down the road from Columbus, can drive to work, and only have 2 to 3 over-nights per month. How could I not take it if offered, and I make it thru the training? Hell, I did not even want to be captain this fast. It just happened.
		
		
	 
 
Yeah, its a good thing some lowball, scumbag outfit offered you a job. I wonder how your passengers feel about flying with a Captain who feels he doesn't have the experience or qualifications to fly them? Or didn't want the job so soon. Do you even get how ludicrous you sound, especially to those of us whose livelihoods are threatened by penny ante outfits like yours? Hope your proud of the contribution you're making to the degradation of the piloting profession. Because, Son, you're leading the way.
 
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Now you have to remember that NONE of these work rules were known to the pilots until we hit the line. It was all secret. I can tell you that some of our ex DELTA, TWA pilots will not let this slide. It's just how it is until we can do something about it----like our VOTE!
		
		
	 
 
So, again, you accepted employment with a Company that had no work rules? What did you expect from an non-Union outfit that paid 1/3rd the average for narrowbody Captains? Trip rigs? You took a job with a Company after having obviously done ZERO research. That's lack of due diligence, my friend. You deserve all the crap they can feed you. Bon apetit!
 
	
		
	
	
		
		
			he has the right to work wherever he wants. To treat him like crap because he wanted to get on with a 121 op, no matter what it is, is just wrong.
		
		
	 
 
And like Gojet pilots he deserves all the disdain Union pilots can heap upon him.
 
	
	
		
		
			Just because skybus treats their employees like crap doesn't give you the right to belittle them.
		
		
	 
 
Sure it does. Especially when they are setting a new low standard for narrowbody airline pay/benefits. You can bet that other airline managers are salivating at the thought of matching Skybust rates on their properties. And there is only one group of people to blame. All the forest rangers who volunteered because they "wanted to get into the 121 world so bad."
 
	
		
	
	
		
		
			Ever hear of Wal-Mart? They destroyed thousands of people's small mom & pop stores. We seem to forget that capitlism has a very dark side.
		
		
	 
 
My God! Listen to yourself, man. WalMart couldn't survive without bargain basement labor. And YOU are the bargain basement labor of the airline industry. Why? Who knows? But, in the future when you're asking yourself where all the $200 an hour passenger airline jobs went, look in the mirror. 
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			I wanted to work for a 121 carrier. Thats it. We have many pilots here that used to work for DELTA, TWA/AA, and others.
		
		
	 
 
Let me guess. The DAL guys are all early retirees who took a huge retirement lump sum payout. Their Skybus money is their beer/stripper money. And the TWA/AA guys are all furloughed and will take just about any job because they're too lazy to change careers.
 
And then there's you. You'll take anything that will get you a 121 job and a type rating regardless of what effect it has on the rest of an entire profession.
 
I pity you. It must be horrible to live a life without a moral compass.