I'm going to start taking bets....

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People really jumped on Seggy in this thread and it's sad.

I believe he has nothing but good intentions. If he were really completely concerned about hiring minimums he would not walk in the resumes he did/does. Airdale had <500TT and Seggy helped him.

But 250TT/50ME is just wrong and you all know it.

Seggy, thank you for trying to make this better for those of us yet to break in. You need to be commended NOT condemed.
 
"People really jumped on Seggy in this thread and it's sad"

I don't know...

I think Seggy's point, thrust, opinion, here highly won out, overall.

That fact warms my heart as I see a bunch of new Yoda's at this thread.

Keep fighting to raise the bar, people, keep on fighting.
 
DE727UPS said:
"My ATP instructor says..........."

That kinda speaks volumes.

You're sitting here telling everyone from B767 Capts to guys who teach newbies at the largest 135 freight airline in the country that they are wrong and you have the bigger, better, picture.

Knock yerself out with with that.....
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It's possible that your ATP instructor wasn't even a pilot 3 1/2 months ago!
 
AmazingPilot said:
Well i don't mean to come off as argumentative, but I do think people should be accountable for what they say.
While yes I don't agree with alot of what Seggy has to say, I do appreciate his feedback.
You can't make sensationalist comments or state facts and then expect people to accept them as being true without facts.
Opinions are fine, I personally think that Seggy has a poor way of phrasing things. I am sure that is the case here, but I still think it is demeaning the way he phrases things.
I also find him very cocky and arrogent thinking that it was okay for him to get hired at 600 hours, but those minimums are too low for the rest of the pilot population.
If he would be willing to admit that he is bad a phrasing things or that he is as cocky as he seems then I would give him alot more credit.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on how I 'phrase' things or if I am a cocky/arrogant person (I like how I am being accused of being cocky from someone who has a username of 'AmazingPilot').

I have seen you back peddle in at least two threads that I created, one being this one, and another one about transatlantic crossing procedures when you had people who are vastly more knowledgeable than you and I clarifying these procedures. You have come across VERY argumentative and seems like you have a chip on your shoulder for me. You also seem to take my words way to literally. Not sure if you are taking what I say WAY to literally or trying to take my words skewing them and trying to create an argument on what I type. Whatever you are trying to do, you will not win.

I apologize to NO ONE for what I said in this thread. I feel I was right what I said. I have made mistakes on things I have posted on here. When I DO make a mistake on something I write, I will be the first to admit it. It has happened in the past and will happen in the future. If you can't admit your mistakes, or can not be open to other ideas, you have NO right being in ANY cockpit.

There is a member on here who I am good friends who works at my company. I ROYALLY screwed something up around August with him. Details aren't important but I screwed something up. I admitted it to him that I was wrong then and have no problem admitting it now that I was wrong.

Also about the remark on how I am 'cocky' or 'arrogant'. I was hired on at low time yes. When I was hired on at that low time I thought I was ready to be part of a two member cockpit crew. Looking back at it, I was NO where near ready with my EXPERIENCE to be flying around 121. NO ONE has enough experience, being trained at the civilian level, (military is a whole different animal) at 600 hours to be part of a two cockpit crew flying around in turbine equipment. The key word here is "EXPERIENCE".

If one is hired at that low time AWESOME. I am sure you will do fine. But, look back at your career progression and ask question yourself on where you were and where you are going. Ask yourself what YOU can do to make the industry better.

Those that post and lurk on jetcareers are the exception in this industry. We are the ones who want to make ourselves better pilots and have a better understanding about what aviation/flying is REALLY about. We come on here to learn about the industry, learn how to fly, and nurture our passion for aviation. We have those on here that are the 'weekend warriors' to those who are international captains. EVERYONE has an important role in aviation. EVERYONE should post what they feel is right. EVERYONE should see jetcareers as a great tool to helping others out.

There are thousands who can say, "I would not be where I am today without jetcareers."

Back to the point, you say I am 'cocky' or 'arrogant'. Have you ever met me? You say you work at Colgan, I have no problem hiding my name, my base, or my phone number on a public internet forum board, so have we crossed paths? Ask Airdale if I am 'cocky' or 'arrogant'. I wrote him (and about ten others with what I would consider low time) a letter of recommendation to Colgan. Ask a few others on here about the phone calls made between me and them to help them out during training, sim, IOE, and info about bases. You see, making remarks about my attitude are fine and dandy, but they are NOTHING without facts.

The spirit of jetcareers is helping others out. I WANT to help others out. We should ALL want to help others out on jetcareers.

I want discussion. We should ALL want discussion about issues that are affecting this industry. However, I WILL NOT get into an internet pissing match with ANYONE who likes to hide behind their monitor and throw fact-less statements about my character or attitude though.

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Seggy said:
I have seen you back peddle in at least two threads that I created, one being this one, and another one about transatlantic crossing procedures when you had people who are vastly more knowledgeable than you and I clarifying these procedures. You have come across VERY argumentative and seems like you have a chip on your shoulder for me.
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I'm still a little confused of a comment he made in another thread he hasn't gone back to respond to suggesting unless the pilots are over 500lbs it would be hard to over-gross a C152.
 
Seggy said:
I have seen you back peddle in at least two threads that I created, one being this one, and another one about transatlantic crossing procedures when you had people who are vastly more knowledgeable than you and I clarifying these procedures.
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I personally find it extremely arrogant for you to claim that a person you have never met before, myself, couldn't possibly have any knowledge about transatlantic crossing procedures. You think just because I work at Colgan that I wouldn't have the slightest clue about Part 121/125 operations, and you've implied that on many occasions. You don't know what my background is, so where do you get off comparing it to someone elses?

In response to that thread I m still waiting for that one guy to get back to us about the three autopilots failing.

Seggy said:
You have come across VERY argumentative and seems like you have a chip on your shoulder for me. You also seem to take my words way to literally. Not sure if you are taking what I say WAY to literally or trying to take my words skewing them and trying to create an argument on what I type. Whatever you are trying to do, you will not win.
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I did take what you said literally, you said you wanted to start taking bets to see which regional would be the next to put a smoking hole in the ground. If you would be willing to admit that you phrased that rather poorly then I would ease up a little.
 
ChinookDriver said:
I'm still a little confused of a comment he made in another thread he hasn't gone back to respond to suggesting unless the pilots are over 500lbs it would be hard to over-gross a C152.
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That was a joke buddy, take it easy. Can't believe you took that literally, I'm sure you know how to do a weight and balance I was kidding.
 
How many ways do you need me to explain this?

A 767 flew across the pond without the autopilot on, because something would not function properly. End of story, let's go home and eat crackers.

Secondly if you have "significant" trans-oceanic experience, albeit with wrong information, why are you at Colgan?

Third, If you are indeed at Colgan, why do you have a NWairlink Saab in your avatar?
 
AmazingPilot said:
That was a joke buddy, take it easy. Can't believe you took that literally, I'm sure you know how to do a weight and balance I was kidding.
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Okay... my bad. It was hard to tell from this:

[QUOTE="Amazing"Pilot]That was your mistake, your company should be arranging the aircraft and pilot schedules.
Two people overweight in a C-152, unless you guys are both pushing 500 lbs. I'd check your math on that.[/QUOTE]

And I DID ask if you were kidding... ;)
 
Would someone be willing to explain to me what experience instructing beyond 500 hrs in a light single/twin will do to help you pilot a jet/turboprop? Everyone keeps throwing the world experience out but are not backing it up with what experience. I mean should i get in the seminole and go find some thunderstorms to dodge? Should I act like my student is part of my crew and practice CRM? Do I need to go practice VMC demo for the 800th time before im "experienced enough" Do I need more knowledge? Weather knowledge? Certainly not systems because a seminole is no where near as complicated as a CRJ, 1900, or ERJ. What was it you wanted to gain through instructing that would have helped you out in a jet or turboprop? Just wondering

Everyone keeps on throwing the fact out that they been there done that and I will realize it when i get more experience. I have great respect for you guys but on this topic i respectfully disagree. I know, I'll figure it out when I get there. But there are countless amounts of pilots from fast track programs that have excelled at the next level and will continue to do so with low time.
 
777forever said:
Would someone be willing to explain to me what experience instructing beyond 500 hrs in a light single/twin will do to help you pilot a jet/turboprop? Everyone keeps throwing the world experience out but are not backing it up with what experience. I mean should i get in the seminole and go find some thunderstorms to dodge? Should I act like my student is part of my crew and practice CRM? Do I need to go practice VMC demo for the 800th time before im "experienced enough" Do I need more knowledge? Weather knowledge? Certainly not systems because a seminole is no where near as complicated as a CRJ, 1900, or ERJ. What was it you wanted to gain through instructing that would have helped you out in a jet or turboprop? Just wondering

Everyone keeps on throwing the fact out that they been there done that and I will realize it when i get more experience. I have great respect for you guys but on this topic i respectfully disagree. I know, I'll figure it out when I get there. But there are countless amounts of pilots from fast track programs that have excelled at the next level and will continue to do so with low time.
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CFIing is your first job as a Captain in so many ways. I can say that from personal experince of 2.5 years of CFIing and 2 years as a ERJ Captain.
 
I'm still just a little confused, as are the majority here, why a person would log into a forum and in the matter of ten days manage to alienate such a huge number of people. IncrediblePilot, you don't seem to want to play with others. It is like Doug said, if we knew who you were and what you intentions are then perhaps you could fall back on saying "i'm right and you're wrong." Instead it seems that you are hell bent on maintaining your position over finding some common ground and making friends.

I'll tell ya one of the most amazing things about this website: this is a place to network (oh, btw that is its mission) and make friends. Personally, I have been coming here for over five years and I have never had bad advice nor met anyone that I didn't like. I have spent a lot of time with people at meet-and-greets and just hanging around SLC. It is one of the best things that has happened to me in my flying. In fact, I give Jetcareers direct credit for getting me the job I have today with SKYW. So lighten up a little bit and start acting like you would if we were all together in a room. Don't hide behind the anonymity of the website. -Chuck
 
Seggy said:
Back to the point, you say I am 'cocky' or 'arrogant'. Have you ever met me? You say you work at Colgan, I have no problem hiding my name, my base, or my phone number on a public internet forum board, so have we crossed paths? Ask Airdale if I am 'cocky' or 'arrogant'. I wrote him (and about ten others with what I would consider low time) a letter of recommendation to Colgan. Ask a few others on here about the phone calls made between me and them to help them out during training, sim, IOE, and info about bases. You see, making remarks about my attitude are fine and dandy, but they are NOTHING without facts.

The spirit of jetcareers is helping others out. I WANT to help others out. We should ALL want to help others out on jetcareers.

I want discussion. We should ALL want discussion about issues that are affecting this industry. However, I WILL NOT get into an internet pissing match with ANYONE who likes to hide behind their monitor and throw fact-less statements about my character or attitude though.

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Seggy is anything BUT cocky. From the day we first got in touch until now, he has been a great mentor. Answering any questions I may have, keeping track of my progess in training, giving me advice and reassurance about things. Seggs is ANYTHING but cocky. He's a stand up guy and until these last few days of training, I didn't think I was in over my head. I'll get through training, but I'm a little worried I'm not going to be able to get my seat off the floor those first few days. And thats going from Seminole CFI to Beech 1900 FO. I can't imagine the transition from Seminole to CRJ. :insane:
 
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