Aircraft crashes into building in NYC

The guy on MSNBC right now is trying to answer questions about the VFR chute and is totally making up answers as he goes...it's almost comical.
 
I tow a banner around Manhattan 4 days a week at 1000ft. I didn't go today b/c ceilings @ linden were ~11-1200ft. Metar was reporting 1500 at Newark. Vis was around 5 mi over linden when I took off at 1300.

There are a few fixed wing sight seeing tours on the Hudson every day, but I have *never* seen one on the east river. Helo's everywhere, but apparently this isn't one of them. The only fixed wings on the east river are me, and a handful of amphibs who come in and out 2x a day.

My guess is that a tour, or a weekend warrior, decided to take it up the east river. They either botched the 180 over rosevelte island (maybe a left hand turn northbound to southbound with the 15kt east wind today), or they had engine trouble and tried to take it west to central park, hitting the building enroute. You have a 'box canyon' of sorts with laguardia's airspace up there. I make 180's there all the time though towing a 50'x100' banner, so I don't see how this would really be the reason.

I have a feeling this is going to screw up my current job. My livelyhood depends on the exclusion.
 
Yikes now they are saying it is unsettling that people are allowed to fly over Manhattan whenever they want.

So who wants to bet how long it will take for them to place an ADIZ over NYC and probably other major cities soon?
 
They think it is a Cirrus SR-20 possibly going from Teterboro to White Plains. 4 people dead. 2 on board nad 2 in the building. :(
 
Dazzler said:
You had to know it was only a matter of time before that would happen
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Haven't they been pushing for one for the past year or so up in the NYC area?

I know AOPA had something about trying to prevent it because of the thought that it would lead to every major city getting the ADIZ around it.
 
Yeah, that looks like a helicopter... Do the eyewitnesses just make up stuff? Maybe they were watching Airwolf at the time?
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I was wondering the same thing...first it was a heli, then it was a fixed single, then a fixed multi...
 
towhook said:
They either botched the 180 over rosevelte island (maybe a left hand turn northbound to southbound with the 15kt east wind today), or they had engine trouble and tried to take it west to central park, hitting the building enroute. You have a 'box canyon' of sorts with laguardia's airspace up there. I make 180's there all the time though towing a 50'x100' banner, so I don't see how this would really be the reason.
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Doesn't the Cirrus have that parachute to compensate for its easy entry into a spin? I could see someone looking at the sights out there doing the 180 you are talking about, then getting slow, stall, and spin low to the ground. I would imagine it wouldn't be much different than a base to final turn.
 
CNN has a controller and he's just talking out of his @ss. This is ridiculous. He actually said that with the plane departing TEB the tower controllers wouldn't of switched him off their freq.

#1 Class D they don't tell you to change freq, you just DO IT
#2 TEB's airspace is far far away from where the plane hit

I seriously wish CNN would actually interview people who KNEW what they were talking about.
 
I like how CNN sells their gore. This is the title of a link on their site to a video "(Watch the orange flames ravage the apartment"). I mean when pitch it to me like THAT of course i wanna watch! :sarcasm:
 
I just saw 2 F-15s fly by here in LAS. They never fly over this part of Vegas. Im guessing its a patrol of the area.
 
It's obvious to me, there can be no more GA aviation ever, anywhere. We might be able to allow special people, with special permits to fly over special unihabited areas of Montana and the High Plains states....but, they'll need to go through a complete Top Secret background check. Other than that, it's completely unsafe and all GA aircraft are weapons of mass destruction and should be sent to the scrap yard.

We need to have fighters scrambled 24-7-365........Time to take out Dr. Jones and his Baron!!!!



















do I even need to :sarcasm:
 
Timbuff10 said:
Yeah, that looks like a helicopter... Do the eyewitnesses just make up stuff? Maybe they were watching Airwolf at the time?
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Well the MSNBC guy mentioend that if the wings had broken off (more speculation), it could possibly look like a helicopter, which I can sort of see.

But then he mentioned something about jet fuel leaking down the side of the building. Do they make turbine SR-20s?
 
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