Morbid curiosity. Upgrade times?

MikeD said:
Ha! Love it! Its normally CGZ and P08 where they drive me up a wall haha!
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Oh yaaa. Good old death stack. Definitely probably finished the night prior to landing at DVT with entering the hold over Stanfield then flying the ils. “Mesquite 69 rEqUsTiNG ToP oF tHe StACK?”
 
Sculprit said:
Oh yaaa. Good old death stack. Definitely probably finished the night prior to landing at DVT with entering the hold over Stanfield then flying the ils. “Mesquite 69 rEqUsTiNG ToP oF tHe StACK?”
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Even at 0030, the stack is stacked. What with the sheer number of flight schools in the metro PHX area now and the numbers of planes
 
MikeD said:
Even at 0030, the stack is stacked. What with the sheer number of flight schools in the metro PHX area now and the numbers of planes
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Hopefully they do something with that place. Be it a tower or curfew I dont know but it gets sketch when TFD is stacking.
 
roundout said:
It didn’t have the 150mph speedometer police package like most of the aughts crew cars at rural airports in Texas.
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There's a small FBO in Iowa or Nebraska we used to stop at on our trips to JAC, can't remember where but the fuel was stupid cheap, that had a full blown ex cop car. When my wife got back from a food run with a giant ass grin on her face I knew it was time to beat feet out of that place
 
MikeD said:
“Stanfield traffic, request top of stack”

“Top of stack is FL240. 245 is open”

:)
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I actually got routing over TFD at 380 earlier this week. The captain's son is an instructor at Willie for ATP, so I was explaining the joys of the stack at Stanfield.
 
BobDDuck said:
I actually got routing over TFD at 380 earlier this week. The captain's son is an instructor at Willie for ATP, so I was explaining the joys of the stack at Stanfield.
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ATP…..”Careertrack”. I think they have the ASU contract too.

You could’ve brought up 122.7 on an aux radio so he could have comms to go along with your description. :)
 
MikeD said:
ATP…..”Careertrack”. I think they have the ASU contract too.

You could’ve brought up 122.7 on an aux radio so he could have comms to go along with your description. :)
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Is the officially unofficial southeast practice area frequency still 123.45?
 
guywhoflies said:
Is the officially unofficial southeast practice area frequency still 123.45?
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The Southeast practice area as always had an official frequency so there wasn't really ever a need for unofficial ones, other than CFIs talking crap in flight. 123.45 is not technically an air to air freq for general chat. 122.75 is reserved for that. 123.45 is a flight test frequency domestically, and is used for non emergency enroute communications in oceanic airspace. It's pretty annoying the amount of stupid blather that goes on that we've got to listen to when coasting out from the west coast.

In 2003 when the Arizona Flight Training Workgroup was just getting started, the memorialized 122.85 as the south practice area frequency. Eventually they split that in to Southwest and Southwest frequencies. It's been a long time since I've been in a GA aircraft out there, so I have no idea what's happened since 2005, but there was a pretty active group of us back then who worked pretty hard to establish standards and procedures that would allow everyone to play well in the sandbox.
 
BobDDuck said:
The Southeast practice area as always had an official frequency so there wasn't really ever a need for unofficial ones, other than CFIs talking crap in flight. 123.45 is not technically an air to air freq for general chat. 122.75 is reserved for that. 123.45 is a flight test frequency domestically, and is used for non emergency enroute communications in oceanic airspace. It's pretty annoying the amount of stupid blather that goes on that we've got to listen to when coasting out from the west coast.

In 2003 when the Arizona Flight Training Workgroup was just getting started, the memorialized 122.85 as the south practice area frequency. Eventually they split that in to Southwest and Southwest frequencies. It's been a long time since I've been in a GA aircraft out there, so I have no idea what's happened since 2005, but there was a pretty active group of us back then who worked pretty hard to establish standards and procedures that would allow everyone to play well in the sandbox.
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I haven't heard a peep on 123.45 on my crossings. Actually only heard Air Canada call British Airways to ask them to cancel offset due to wake. Other than that, silence.
 
BobDDuck said:
In 2003 when the Arizona Flight Training Workgroup was just getting started, the memorialized 122.85 as the south practice area frequency. Eventually they split that in to Southwest and Southwest frequencies. It's been a long time since I've been in a GA aircraft out there, so I have no idea what's happened since 2005, but there was a pretty active group of us back then who worked pretty hard to establish standards and procedures that would allow everyone to play well in the sandbox.
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It's kinda better now, kinda... but really stupid busy in both the SE & SW and Rainbow practice areas with all the flight schools in and around the area. ADSB helps make it easier, but you still gotta keep your head on a swivel and also make regular radio calls.

I'm doing my CFI out of Chandler, so I'm regularly in and out of the SE and SW practice areas and A39 a lot now. We don't go to Rainbow between Goodyear & Buckeye, because its dangerous. Like how Mufasa told Simba, in the Lion King, not to go anywhere the light doesn't touch.

Why? Aviate mainly flies in Rainbow, but isn't on the Rainbow frequency, like EVERYONE. No, they gotta be different. They exclusively use Luke AFB's frequency while in the practice area, while everyone else is on 128.925. Its a mid-air waiting to happen.

No experience with KCGZ/TFD yet, but I will in a couple months, when I start my CFII. Not at all looking forward to it!

Thank you for your service!
 

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Maximilian_Jenius said:
It's kinda better now, kinda... but really stupid busy in both the SE & SW and Rainbow practice areas with all the flight schools in and around the area. ADSB helps make it easier, but you still gotta keep your head on a swivel and also make regular radio calls.

I'm doing my CFI out of Chandler, so I'm regularly in and out of the SE and SW practice areas and A39 a lot now. We don't go to Rainbow between Goodyear & Buckeye, because its dangerous. Like how Mufasa told Simba, in the Lion King, not to go anywhere the light doesn't touch.

Why? Aviate mainly flies in Rainbow, but isn't on the Rainbow frequency, like EVERYONE. No, they gotta be different. They exclusively use Luke AFB's frequency while in the practice area, while everyone else is on 128.925. Its a mid-air waiting to happen.

No experience with KCGZ/TFD yet, but I will in a couple months, when I start my CFII. Not at all looking forward to it!

Thank you for your service!
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Yeah that area between the Estrellas and south mountain where the 202 turns north is always jammed with low level traffic going to and from GYR/GEU north/south under the shelf. Way too many darn flight schools around in one area. P08, even E60 get jammed up In that area, as well as E63 to/from traffic to the southwest as I’m going in and out of GXF.
 
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