UAL pilot gets revenge on the employee lot gate in Denver.

killbilly said:
I'll confess to *wanting* to do something like that with a parking gate or other obstruction numerous times in my life.

But I am a grown-up, mature, functioning member of society.
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Tbf, you are also going home to an agreeable partner with some pets and possibly recently-cooked food.

This moment might have been the highlight of that pilat’s day.

I think what we’re learning here is that a) the DEN lot is legit terrible based on the stated concurrence, and b) a “strangers on a train” approach is the correct way to go here, where an aggrieved party hires someone who has no business at the airport to take one of the cars off blocks on their front lawn and go ram the • out of as many parking lot stop arms as possible before disappearing into the night. Maybe dropping a note to avoid it being interpreted as a random drunk or stolen joyride.
 
Minuteman said:
Tbf, you are also going home to an agreeable partner with some pets and possibly recently-cooked food.

This moment might have been the highlight of that pilat’s day.

I think what we’re learning here is that a) the DEN lot is legit terrible based on the stated concurrence, and b) a “strangers on a train” approach is the correct way to go here, where an aggrieved party hires someone who has no business at the airport to take one of the cars off blocks on their front lawn and go ram the • out of as many parking lot stop arms as possible before disappearing into the night. Maybe dropping a note to avoid it being interpreted as a random drunk or stolen joyride.
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I think the biggest issue is that the employees who create these nightmarish situations where you can't leave work due to the "new system" etc are not affected by their actions.

At the POS (Port of Seattle's accurate acronym) all of the POS employees have 1st floor parking access in the short term garage. Anyone with decision making power doesn't have to deal with the employee bus ride, the fact WSDOT just made everyone's commute 20 minutes longer.

It's why these situations happen. Apotheotic mid level government mangers create horrible conditions for employees and passengers that they do not have to deal with on a daily basis.
 
And the bus ride is gonna be a whole lot longer than 20 mins if they have to reroute to a different drop off location. And that will just have a cascading effect throughout the day. Maybe they have a solution, but it sounds like a total non-starter to me. Like, they're gonna have to do something else, because flights are gonna start getting delayed en masse.
 
///AMG said:
And the bus ride is gonna be a whole lot longer than 20 mins if they have to reroute to a different drop off location. And that will just have a cascading effect throughout the day. Maybe they have a solution, but it sounds like a total non-starter to me. Like, they're gonna have to do something else, because flights are gonna start getting delayed en masse.
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Thankfully I don't believe that both the 518 work and tunnel work will occur at the same time. I just think we will only get a month or two of "normal" employee lot travel times and then it will be terrible for most of 2024....
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
I think the biggest issue is that the employees who create these nightmarish situations where you can't leave work due to the "new system" etc are not affected by their actions.

At the POS (Port of Seattle's accurate acronym) all of the POS employees have 1st floor parking access in the short term garage. Anyone with decision making power doesn't have to deal with the employee bus ride, the fact WSDOT just made everyone's commute 20 minutes longer.

It's why these situations happen. Apotheotic mid level government mangers create horrible conditions for employees and passengers that they do not have to deal with on a daily basis.
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It takes us about 30-40 mins typically from stepping off the plane at JFK to getting into our cars. Now throw in a system where the scanner that should be reading our license plate doesn't work....Gotta call the "help" line to use some drive-through quality speaker, whereby they do some work around to trick the system, give them some 9 digit number off your ticket, your license plate....wait....wait......fingers crossed. Tack this onto your crappy day and stack them up for a few years.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
Thankfully I don't believe that both the 518 work and tunnel work will occur at the same time. I just think we will only get a month or two of "normal" employee lot travel times and then it will be terrible for most of 2024....
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I just registered as a BLI commuter, so maybe I'll do that instead
 
///AMG said:
I just registered as a BLI commuter, so maybe I'll do that instead
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What does that get you? A hotel? There are only 2 flights a day. Just flew with a BLI based FO who was complaining about 2 flights a day and they couldn’t get on. They are senior to you…


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BEEF SUPREME said:
I think the biggest issue is that the employees who create these nightmarish situations where you can't leave work due to the "new system" etc are not affected by their actions.

At the POS (Port of Seattle's accurate acronym) all of the POS employees have 1st floor parking access in the short term garage. Anyone with decision making power doesn't have to deal with the employee bus ride, the fact WSDOT just made everyone's commute 20 minutes longer.

It's why these situations happen. Apotheotic mid level government mangers create horrible conditions for employees and passengers that they do not have to deal with on a daily basis.
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I can tell you that DEN has a legacy in the airport industry for being a place where airport staff are explicitly prohibited from making decisions.
 
Looks like she's a regular contributor to ring-wing talking heads.

Talk about privilege - there is no other occupation where I can think of where if you went on national TV and identified yourself as an employee of a company, and then trashed that company, that you would still be working at that company at the end of the day.

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bike21 said:
Happened to me and the other two lanes getting out the other night as well at midnight. Rang the call button and she asked for my badge number which I had recenlty removed from my badge collection since we apparently don't need it anymore. Then asked for my long arse ExpressToll number which I laughed at.

Typical DEN stuff, short sighted planning and failure to execute a plan properly. While axe murdering the gate was clearly wrong, he just took out decades of frustration with DEN oriented decision making and made us all feel a little better.
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Yep! Several of my DEN friends are ready to start a go fund me for this dude, ha ha!!!
 
Murdoughnut said:
Looks like she's a regular contributor to ring-wing talking heads.

Talk about privilege - there is no other occupation where I can think of where if you went on national TV and identified yourself as an employee of a company, and then trashed that company, that you would still be working at that company at the end of the day.

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Yep. These people have never had a job/career outside aviation before. It’s really not that hard to be respectful and nice to people.
 
Murdoughnut said:
Looks like she's a regular contributor to ring-wing talking heads.

Talk about privilege - there is no other occupation where I can think of where if you went on national TV and identified yourself as an employee of a company, and then trashed that company, that you would still be working at that company at the end of the day.

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I watched the interview....4:27 of it, and didn't really see her "trashing" the company. That's what you saw?
 
Baronman said:
I watched the interview....4:27 of it, and didn't really see her "trashing" the company. That's what you saw?
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Oh I didn't watch the video, but my understanding was the premise was that she's an employee unhappy with the company's requirement that they be vaccinated. I was more speaking generally to the fact that any private employer would fire you for appearing on TV as an employee of their company without it having been expressly approved by the company's PR leadership. Going on as "airline pilot" is one thing, but identifying your employer would be grounds for termination in any corporate context. I'm pretty sure if a United network planner went on TV as "United Airlines network planner" without United's consent, they'd be gone too.
 
The FAA: "We're going to need a letter from a board certified psychologist attesting to your mental fitness, stability and lack of comorbidities and we're going to need this every year for five years"

The guys I sit next to:
 
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