United AIP

[nibake]

Is the A380 rate a practical joke?

 

[nibake]

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Honestly, that doesn't move the needle for me. Thanks, I feel better now, heh. Commuting and waiting to upgrade before I can even think about touching my current rate doesn't look very attractive.

 

[Seggy]

Is the A380 rate a practical joke?

Nope. Has been in the UPA since 2012.

 

[web265]

Here's an interesting opinion in part on it from the WSJ,

"Generous as the offer may seem, the pay increase isn’t all that much higher than the consumer-price index, which last month increased 8.6% over the last year. After inflation, the 14.5% raise amounts to about a 1.6% increase over 18 months. For pilots who live in Sun Belt areas where inflation is running hotter than 10%, such as Phoenix, it’s a decline in real wages if inflation stays this hot through the next year."

 

[roundout]

Damn looks like 3rd year pay for FO is the top of the AS payscale for FO on the same equipment. I know it aint all about the pay but sheesh.

north face uni though

 

[Ian_J]

Damn looks like 3rd year pay for FO is the top of the AS payscale for FO on the same equipment. I know it aint all about the pay but sheesh.

That scale is just raise #1. There’s a 2023 and a NLT 2024 pay scale as well.

That said, this TA isn’t exactly impressing… well, anyone, so far. The vote results might be interesting.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Here's an interesting opinion in part on it from the WSJ,

"Generous as the offer may seem, the pay increase isn’t all that much higher than the consumer-price index, which last month increased 8.6% over the last year. After inflation, the 14.5% raise amounts to about a 1.6% increase over 18 months. For pilots who live in Sun Belt areas where inflation is running hotter than 10%, such as Phoenix, it’s a decline in real wages if inflation stays this hot through the next year."

Surprising to see that come from the WSJ, as they clearly don’t understand how the CPI works in relation to high income earners.

 

[BobDDuck]

Surprising to see that come from the WSJ, as they clearly don’t understand how the CPI works in relation to high income earners.

I've pretty much given up trying to explain to people what the CPI is.

 

[Roger Roger]

Surprising to see that come from the WSJ, as they clearly don’t understand how the CPI works in relation to high income earners.

WSJ be like

 

[bimmerphile]

Surprising to see that come from the WSJ, as they clearly don’t understand how the CPI works in relation to high income earners.

opinion piece

 

[///AMG]

I heard that there is an appetite to recall the members of their MEC over this, in addition to voting it down.....

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Surprising to see that come from the WSJ, as they clearly don’t understand how the CPI works in relation to high income earners.

Can you define “high income earners.”

 

[alaskadrifter]

Damn looks like 3rd year pay for FO is the top of the AS payscale for FO on the same equipment. I know it aint all about the pay but sheesh.

Looks like it’s on par with Alaska ALPA’s proposed rates from the other thread.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Looks like it’s on par with Alaska ALPA’s proposed rates from the other thread.

I guess one is a proposal and the other is actually something that pilots will vote on. I doubt we will see a TA at AS for years.

Again. All that being said I hear the work rules and other issues in the UAL TA aren't super great.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Can you define “high income earners.”

The further from the median income that someone is, the more inaccurate the CPI is to reflect their buying power. Median income is around $55k.

 

[CoolRunnings]

The further from the median income that someone is, the more inaccurate the CPI is to reflect their buying power. Median income is around $55k.

Have you seen the details and do you have any thoughts?

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Have you seen the details and do you have any thoughts?

I don’t know enough about the details to have an opinion. But I’ll say this: I have more respect for MEC Chair Captain Hamilton than I do for just about anyone else I ever worked with in ALPA. If he‘s in favor, I’d follow his lead.

 

[jhugz]

Death, taxes, and Todd cheerleading ALPA. Some things you can just always count on. Man, all I need is a GoJet thread to really bring back the nostalgia.

 

[jhugz]

TA activities being suspended in light of AA’s proposal.

 

[tcco94]

I enjoyed reading the email from John Barton whoever that is.