Oh Alaska(n)

[BobDDuck]

If I remember correctly, the 700s were bought to operate for Frontier.

I think they had the 700s prior to the Frontier contract. They got them in 2001 and didn't operate for the Animal until 2004 or 2005.

 

[Skåning]

I’m late to the party, but Alaska(n)/Horizon parking their Q400s seems nuts.

Beyond nuts, they had a hard time staffing prior, now that a third of the fleet is leaving with no replacement, imagine how upgrade times will shoot up. Why would anyone go there? Shrinking fleet and an operation that’s winding down.

 

[Skåning]

It's been done before. It will be done again.

Didn't they dump all of their CRJ7's a few years ago to go all Q's?

The CRJs were taken away from its wholly owned regional and given to a competitor (SkyWest) to operate for Alaskan. #Genius
Even keeping the same -QX tail numbers

Yep. They can’t even staff them right now…

It’s not a good sign for pilots at AS really either

This summer is gonna be a Chernobyl style meltdown with staffing, won’t be pretty.

 

[ASpilot2be]

Speaking of which, I saw a CRJ in Alaska colors in St Louis the other day

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Beyond nuts, they had a hard time staffing prior, now that a third of the fleet is leaving with no replacement, imagine how upgrade times will shoot up. Why would anyone go there? Shrinking fleet and an operation that’s winding down.

They won’t shoot up. They’ll still suffer from a pilot shortage.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Horizon was the first to operate the CR7 in this country? I legit didn’t know that.

Horizon Air First U.S. Airline to Receive CRJ-700; Jet is Fast and Quiet | Alaska Air Group Inc

The Investor Relations website contains information about Alaska Air Group Inc 's business for stockholders, potential investors, and financial analysts.

investor.alaskaair.com

 

[Skåning]

Travel chaos from pilot shortage just part of Alaska Airlines’ headaches

An Alaska Air official blamed the recent spate of canceled flights and long hold times on omicron and bad weather, both of which slowed the pipeline of new pilots.

www.seattletimes.com

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Travel chaos from pilot shortage just part of Alaska Airlines’ headaches

An Alaska Air official blamed the recent spate of canceled flights and long hold times on omicron and bad weather, both of which slowed the pipeline of new pilots.

www.seattletimes.com

That was actually really well written


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[roundout]

Travel chaos from pilot shortage just part of Alaska Airlines’ headaches

An Alaska Air official blamed the recent spate of canceled flights and long hold times on omicron and bad weather, both of which slowed the pipeline of new pilots.

www.seattletimes.com

Sounds about par for the course.

“you have Problem”
“we’re fine, stick to Flying planes”
“we might have a problem”
—negotiations get uglier
“We expect the summer to be better “

 

[MikeD]

Wonder if the situation today would be the same had Colgan 3407 and the resultant 1500 rule both never occurred?

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Wonder if the situation today would be the same had Colgan 3407 and the resultant 1500 rule both never occurred?

The only way that would be helping AS management is they could put more mainline flights on regional feed.


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[roundout]

Wonder if the situation today would be the same had Colgan 3407 and the resultant 1500 rule both never occurred?

Answer is a resounding “maybe”

 

[Maximilian_Jenius]

Wonder if the situation today would be the same had Colgan 3407 and the resultant 1500 rule both never occurred?

I've wondered the same. I keep hearing/reading in post like this about a pilot shortage. I'm all like. "Put me in, coach!" But 1500 rule. It sucks for low time guys like me, but it keeps wages higher. Tradeoff, is tradeoff.

 

[Hiboglossi]

They won’t shoot up. They’ll still suffer from a pilot shortage.

They very well might shoot up. There could even be downgrades, if what happened at a different former Dash 8 operator when the Dashes were abruptly retired is any indication. Dozens of Dash captains were downgraded and there were no upgrades for almost a year, even though the company still had significant issues staffing with pilots.

 

[SurferLucas]

One day over gin tonics, I'll tell y'all my story about how I came to loathe all things Alaska(n) Airlines and even Horizon. I hope they die a slow, painful death.

 

[roundout]

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

One day over gin tonics, I'll tell y'all my story about how I came to loathe all things Alaska(n) Airlines and even Horizon. I hope they die a slow, painful death.

I say stuff like this and it’s all my fault, people bring up things from deep in my past and then I get accused of being a meany.

What’s your secret??


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[Skåning]

I say stuff like this and it’s all my fault, people bring up things from deep in my past and then I get accused of being a meany.

Naw you're fine. Don't change

 

[derg]

If they can actually get it all, it would be great. If they can't, it makes an eventual ratification vote very difficult.

That’s the danger with publicizing openers. Pilots will expect that, plus more and if they don’t succeed, well, it just extends negotiations.

A TA somewhere between the company and ALPA’s opener gets turned down, the negotiating team will resign, some “We’re gonna get everything and MORE!” negotiating team goes into position, stalemate, rinse, repeat.

We have those at my pilot group that demand everything be reported play-by-play on the internet, others that will write nastygrams to the negotiating team and the MEC with personal demands, it just brings out the weird in people.

Hell, I have a really good friend on our negotiating team and I dare don’t bother him with questions. We just talk cats and science fiction.

 

[derg]

One day over gin tonics, I'll tell y'all my story about how I came to loathe all things Alaska(n) Airlines and even Horizon. I hope they die a slow, painful death.

Soon!