Morbid curiosity. Upgrade times?

Well at least his profile pic is accurate with his posting. That said why are people so scared to admit who they fly for? We are a tight nit community here, not that I know everyone personal but I know of a lot of people from the forum at least. Seems odd some people are so skiddish on admitting who they work for based on their post history. Stop hiding, trolls.
 
tcco94 said:
Well at least his profile pic is accurate with his posting. That said why are people so scared to admit who they fly for? We are a tight nit community here, not that I know everyone personal but I know of a lot of people from the forum at least. Seems odd some people are so skiddish on admitting who they work for based on their post history. Stop hiding, trolls.
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Because doing so is a violation of social media policy at most airlines.
 
jtrain609 said:
Because doing so is a violation of social media policy at most airlines.
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BobDDuck said:
It was more about the attitude. Pilots (and I'm not saying you do) sometimes do their absolute damdest to do stupid things that get them in trouble. I'd say 50% of the contract defense time is spent on 10% of a pilot group.
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That's fair. I'm sarcastic a lot and that does happen to get me in trouble sometimes.
 
Richman said:
For you youngins'.....Late 60s, all the majors (and there were a lot more of them) were hiring off the street and even advertising in Flying and other periodicals. The pilot shortage was "real" and the hiring would never end.

Those pilots hired were all furloughed just a few short years later...for quite some time.

Not sayin' anything....Just sayin'....
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Words of wisdom. Theres a handful of us that were part of the "lost 10 years" because of 9/11 that saw some sobering things in our careers. Before we got into the career, as kids growing up in the 90's, we saw the struggle, and we still got into it. I guess what I'm trying to say is, be careful with painting a rosy picture with whats going on right now. We're one war/virus outbreak/world event from YOU being on the street.

If you're at a major, take your seniority list, cut it in half. That would be the new seniority list when, not IF, one of those things happen. If you're in the bottom half, you better be living modestly, investing wisely, and treading carefully. If you're in the top half, your job is most likely ok if you're in the top half of that half. If you're in the bottom half of that, endless reserve, 30%-40% paycut from being downgraded from captain to FO. Then another 50% paycut when the airline goes to the bankruptcy judge and throws your contract out the window and shoves a new one down your throat. Go do your research and see what happened to those that came before you.

A lot of guys on these forums already know this, this message ain't for them. This message is for the guys that got into 121 around 2013, spent a few years at the regionals, quickly got picked up by a major and are already if not close to upgrade. If you've got extra cash, go buy a rental property with 20% down. When the down turn comes, it will add stability to your life.
 
Yup. I’m 10 yrs this month, starting 11th yr pay and will be capped 12th yr max pay in 12 more months. Currently about ~43.5% overall.

Even though I’m 37, there’s no way I’m leaving. The risk matrix just isn’t worth it.
 
mrivc211 said:
We're one war/virus outbreak/world event from YOU being on the street.
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... you better be living modestly, investing wisely, and treading carefully.
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Slight reality check from the 90s.
It doesn't matter how modestly you lived or wisely invested when the world crumbles around you. The money is paper, and only the cash you had on hand matters, whatever you had in the bank doesn't exist anymore. The paper is worth at best 10% of what it used to be.
Yadayada and so forth. Point being, none of this helps if a real chitshow happens.
Seriously, guys, 99.9% of investing for apocalypse advise out there doesn't pass the real "things go south" test.
 
BigZ said:
Slight reality check from the 90s.
It doesn't matter how modestly you lived or wisely invested when the world crumbles around you. The money is paper, and only the cash you had on hand matters, whatever you had in the bank doesn't exist anymore. The paper is worth at best 10% of what it used to be.
Yadayada and so forth. Point being, none of this helps if a real chitshow happens.
Seriously, guys, 99.9% of investing for apocalypse advise out there doesn't pass the real "things go south" test.
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I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing. Your description is of someone making risky high leveraged bets. In those circumstances you’ll always lose
 
mrivc211 said:
I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing. Your description is of someone making risky high leveraged bets. In those circumstances you’ll always lose
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No... He's saying like when a country's banking (and legal) system ceases to exist. Gold bricks under your mattress are all that really matter at that point.
 
mrivc211 said:
Words of wisdom. Theres a handful of us that were part of the "lost 10 years" because of 9/11 that saw some sobering things in our careers. Before we got into the career, as kids growing up in the 90's, we saw the struggle, and we still got into it. I guess what I'm trying to say is, be careful with painting a rosy picture with whats going on right now. We're one war/virus outbreak/world event from YOU being on the street.

If you're at a major, take your seniority list, cut it in half. That would be the new seniority list when, not IF, one of those things happen. If you're in the bottom half, you better be living modestly, investing wisely, and treading carefully. If you're in the top half, your job is most likely ok if you're in the top half of that half. If you're in the bottom half of that, endless reserve, 30%-40% paycut from being downgraded from captain to FO. Then another 50% paycut when the airline goes to the bankruptcy judge and throws your contract out the window and shoves a new one down your throat. Go do your research and see what happened to those that came before you.

A lot of guys on these forums already know this, this message ain't for them. This message is for the guys that got into 121 around 2013, spent a few years at the regionals, quickly got picked up by a major and are already if not close to upgrade. If you've got extra cash, go buy a rental property with 20% down. When the down turn comes, it will add stability to your life.
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Property prices at all time highs, interest rates scheduled to increase, etc. There’s absolutely no way I’d buy a rental property right now. A reasonable primary home, sure.
 
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