Delta Psychological Eval Lawsuit?

phill1174 said:
Smh at “job fair prep”. As I get closer to my DGI I’m amazed at the money people are spending on some prep companies. I understand wanting to be able to tell your story without rambling on about irrelevant nonsense but from what I gathered some of it is highway robbery.
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I’m pretty good at interviews, but I also think it’s extremely foolish to not invest in some polish with legit companies that specialize in prep for certain airlines. I can’t imagine blowing an opportunity with Delta or UPS because you thought spending a few hundred bucks was a ripoff.

All told, I spent close to $1,000 for prep over the years. It was absolutely worth it. But one also has to do research to make sure they’re not dealing with some jack wagon pretending to have all the answers (i.e. the x number of pages in your app Delta FO guy).
 
GypsyPilot said:
I’m pretty good at interviews, but I also think it’s extremely foolish to not invest in some polish with legit companies that specialize in prep for certain airlines. I can’t imagine blowing an opportunity with Delta or UPS because you thought spending a few hundred bucks was a ripoff.

All told, I spent close to $1,000 for prep over the years. It was absolutely worth it. But one also has to do research to make sure they’re not dealing with some jack wagon pretending to have all the answers (i.e. the x number of pages in your app Delta FO guy).
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To each their own. I think I interview well and wouldn't do the interview prep if I had an interview. Personally I think one should consider their past history of how many interviews they've failed and why. As Derg said, he can tell which prep company you used. It could be good or bad.

And a newhire Delta FO decided to open his own interview prep business after successfully getting hired at Delta? Capitalism for ya :) using his newfound hired talent.
 
trafficinsight said:
Next you'll be telling me you've never been to Duluth, you don't drink, and you're sexually fluid...

FAIL! NEXT!

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I've been to Duluth. I remember staying in a cyclinder-shapped Radisson (actually pretty cool), the hotel being connected to the city via pedestrian tunnel and bridges so I could walk around a lot and not step outside once, and the fact the next day for departure it was minus 38 deg C. Yes, -38C
 
phill1174 said:
Smh at “job fair prep”. As I get closer to my DGI I’m amazed at the money people are spending on some prep companies. I understand wanting to be able to tell your story without rambling on about irrelevant nonsense but from what I gathered some of it is highway robbery.
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I’d spend decent coin on interview prep. A couple grand on a nice suit and interview prep to get the job of a lifetime is a pretty good investment.
 
Derg said:
Minnesota Multi-Phase Personality Inventory.
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Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory. But who's counting?
Speaking of counting... are you talking MMPPI 1, or 2?
Speaking of checking boxes as a proxy for reality.,, oh, nevermind.

I'll just go with "you're missing out..." if you don't drink. Mama always said to find the good.
 
Derg said:
“Kinda”

Generally, even at a job fair, I can tell:

  1. If you’ve used a professional prep service
  2. Who you prepped with
  3. If you’re telling someone else’s story.
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4. If you're on the autistic spectrum...
 
I used a prep company a number of years ago and didn't pass the interview. I think I was just too 'on script' I got an offer to interview recently and decided I wouldn't shell out money for a prep service, I would be myself, tell my story, and if I wasn't hired I'd try again later. Thankfully that time I passed.

As far as the personality test goes I don't think anyone is a big fan of them. I used to commute on United and FedEx quite a bit and the crews would go on long winded rants about what BS those tests are. From a practical stand point though if you have 5,000 applications on file and plan on hiring 800 for the year there really needs to be a filtering process. I'm not a fan but I get it. Play the game.
 
Stryker172 said:
I used a prep company a number of years ago and didn't pass the interview. I think I was just too 'on script' I got an offer to interview recently and decided I wouldn't shell out money for a prep service, I would be myself, tell my story, and if I wasn't hired I'd try again later. Thankfully that time I passed.

As far as the personality test goes I don't think anyone is a big fan of them. I used to commute on United and FedEx quite a bit and the crews would go on long winded rants about what BS those tests are. From a practical stand point though if you have 5,000 applications on file and plan on hiring 800 for the year there really needs to be a filtering process. I'm not a fan but I get it. Play the game.
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I actually wonder if if you filtered down to say, 2000 people then randomly selected from that group (or hell even from the original 5000) if you wouldn't get the same or better results.

I'm half inclined to think you'd see very little difference in the quality if you simply selected randomly...
 
ppragman said:
I actually wonder if if you filtered down to say, 2000 people then randomly selected from that group (or hell even from the original 5000) if you wouldn't get the same or better results.

I'm half inclined to think you'd see very little difference in the quality if you simply selected randomly...
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Yeah I think you're right about that. My understanding of the Hogan for United is they had their ideal 20 or 30 captains all take the test to create a data cluster and every applicant that takes it has to fall somewhere within that cluster.
 
Stryker172 said:
Yeah I think you're right about that. My understanding of the Hogan for United is they had their ideal 20 or 30 captains all take the test to create a data cluster and every applicant that takes it has to fall somewhere within that cluster.
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I would be truly interested in seeing the statistics and how they correlated (or didn't) with disciplinary actions, on time departures, unstable approaches and so on. I'd be really surprised if the data showed that those who scored far from mean but still got the job were involved in any chicanery.
 
Stryker172 said:
I used a prep company a number of years ago and didn't pass the interview. I think I was just too 'on script' I got an offer to interview recently and decided I wouldn't shell out money for a prep service, I would be myself, tell my story, and if I wasn't hired I'd try again later. Thankfully that time I passed.

As far as the personality test goes I don't think anyone is a big fan of them. I used to commute on United and FedEx quite a bit and the crews would go on long winded rants about what BS those tests are. From a practical stand point though if you have 5,000 applications on file and plan on hiring 800 for the year there really needs to be a filtering process. I'm not a fan but I get it. Play the game.
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Here’s a nice filtering idea:

Actually publish flight time minimums that aren’t a joke.


Every major airline today should require 4,000+ TT and 1,000+ turbine. Exceptions for military folks, eg, 1,500 hrs.

That right here would make a decent dent in those 5k applications. The reason the big 3 have 10,000+ applications is because the published minimums are just ATP and 1,000 hrs turbine SIC. That means anyone at a region for ~18 months is qualified mins.



Btw, congrats on getting hired!
 
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