American Airlines job fair

learhawkerbe400 said:
Why does that bother you? It’s not that you’re a second class citizen. It’s that fighter pilots are vetted, screened, trained and had to perform to a much higher standard than civilian pilots. That’s a fact.
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I could make an argument that my 5 years at the regional level have provided its own vetting, screening, and training that makes me just as qualified to sit in the right seat of a 737. But I'm not going to make that argument...I don't care. Just talking points. This is a pointless debate and I don't really care to get into it.

It doesn't bother me that they have a preference for military people. Like I said, that's the game. It bothers me it's in the freaking demographics Like, is being a fighter pilot to them so fundamentally integral to who you are as a person it's on the same level as race and gender?
 
ATN_Pilot said:
I can think of a lot of better ways. But I guess this is what happened when non-pilots in HR are allowed to decide.
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Kind of hilarious coming from the guy who once said he wouldn’t even consider hiring someone without a Facebook account.
 
learhawkerbe400 said:
Why does that bother you? It’s not that you’re a second class citizen. It’s that fighter pilots are vetted, screened, trained and had to perform to a much higher standard than civilian pilots. That’s a fact.
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I give ya that, but what about the ones whose only experience has been in single-seat/pilot fighter jets? They have had 0 flight time (except training) working in the cockpit with someone else. AA has zero airplanes that are single pilot certificated. Plus, there's also the whole general familiarity thing with RJ guys when it comes to operating in/out of the busiest hubs and airspace in the US. There's something to say for that experience and familiarity, and Part 121 ops experience too.

Not saying they are unqualified or inexperienced. I have nothing but respect for our military aviators and I think they should all get a fair shot at any 121 major job. Just saying of all the apps I've filled out in the past, the AA one with the military slant was kinda ridiculous.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
The problem is that the people making the decisions aren't qualified to do so. And that's why you end up with crazy criteria.
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Well since I have no idea who those people are at American or what process they use to develop their hiring criteria then I really can’t have an opinion like that. But from the way it sounds like this job fair was conducted it certainly doesn’t look very good (assuming they’re the same people that is).
 
I have a suspicion that one reason they prefer mil is because of reduced health benefit costs and pensions. They'll hire on at an older age, not use company medical saving tens of thousands a year, and typically bail out early because they have a nice supplemental pension to boot.

I'm thinking that is partly why SWA favored them as well but of course I can't prove anything.

Of course knowing most large corps this kind of thinking doesn't have one hand talking to the other lol.

Keep in mind half of AA hires are civ, they just come via flow right now.
 
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Roger Roger said:
plot twist: AAL has recruiters cruising this and other websites. Those of y’all complaining about the job fair are probably not that hard to trace to a resume for “filing”.
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I hope they do and read this and how throwing a job fair and not taking resumes, which is basically the definition of what a job fair is, was ridiculous and pissed off a lot of good people.
 
Roger Roger said:
plot twist: AAL has recruiters cruising this and other websites. Those of y’all complaining about the job fair are probably not that hard to trace to a resume for “filing”.
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I have not put anything on here that wasn't factual, from my experience at the actual fair. I know the head of recruiting said he goes onto APC, but doesn't post.

So, yes, they do look at these things. Whether or not they try to figure out who is who, i don't know. I try to never post anything that I wouldn't want a recruiter, or family member to see... it doesn't always work, but for the most part, I'd have no issue with anybody seeing what I've posted.
 
I'm confused, on this website alone there is pretty much a weekly discussion about job fairs, and it seems the consensus is that the real reason to go is to make new friends, and get some exposure to the company/companies you are interested in.
Honestly, people always say that it is the ancillary benefits of attending a job fair that are important, it's not a job interview. Why do people get upset when they don't see an instant return on what they view as their investment of time, and Or money to attend one?
What am I missing here?
 
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