In-house Delta Job Fair, October 20/21 2017

[BobDDuck]

Plus, I really don't want to sit through another "if the airlines just did minimum interval takeoffs, we wouldn't have to sit and wait 25 minutes to takeoff in DCA" or "We had jetway trades!" I prefer to go to work, accomplish the tasks expected, have a great time with minimal "Feats of Strength" and "Airing of Grievances" because to some people, Festivus is err'day.

That's not "culture". That's operational stuff.

I think it's totally acceptable to have new guys push for a culture change in certain areas, otherwise we'd still be treating FOs like John Wayne did... and FOs would be letting their captains fly into the sides of mountains.

 

[derg]

Most of my frustration is largely unaimed.

"Here's something free and largely driven by feedback to make it easier"

"Hey internet! Lets all go air our grievances there!"

Sort of like a report about a free taco truck down at the community center becomes a Libertarian debate about the folly of the concept of lunch being free and how North Korea got nukes.

 

[jtrain609]

That's not "culture". That's operational stuff.

I think it's totally acceptable to have new guys push for a culture change in certain areas, otherwise we'd still be treating FOs like John Wayne did... and FOs would be letting their captains fly into the sides of mountains.

If you're not hiring new guys who want to get in and change the culture and the operation for the better, you're not hiring people who are hungry enough.

You don't win anything in life by doing it the same way you did it a decade ago. Hiring yes men will just produce stagnation in another ten years. Re: United Airlines prior to the merger with Continental, or American since the 1920's.

"Parking brake parked."

 

[FlySooner9]

So if 6,500 people tried for the job fair is it safe to assume the number of applications on file is roughly around that?

 

[Toobdrvr]

So if 6,500 people tried for the job fair is it safe to assume the number of applications on file is roughly around that?

There is certainly a logic to that. Personally, I struggle to understand the significance of how many apps they have...

 

[Bear]

6500 people wrangling for 600 spots for day two

then I wonder what the estimated number was for the day one 600 spots? What about the possible thousands of interested fully qualified working ATPs who did not, could not be sitting at a terminal when the scheduled 2 minute registration window opened and then closed.

 

[mastermags]

So is 'can't get hired unless you have a fast internet connection' the new 'can't get hired unless you have boobs or are black?'

 

[jtrain609]

So is 'can't get hired unless you have a fast internet connection' the new 'can't get hired unless you have boobs or are black?'

It's in addition to. You'd never want to shortchange pilots on things they can complain about.

 

[FlySooner9]

then I wonder what the estimated number was for the day one 600 spots? What about the possible thousands of interested fully qualified working ATPs who did not, could not be sitting at a terminal when the scheduled 2 minute registration window opened and then closed.

I don't know. I bet most people that wanted it found a way. Whether it was have a friend or family member try for them.

 

[Bear]

Guess when you're DELTA Air you can be cheap when seeking the best ATP's to join your TEAM. Delta, #71 on the Fortune 500 Ranking, can afford a notable HR firm to process all who seek employment and present Delta's HR a highly qualified 1,200 for their Job Fair. Or, was there more to the story of using a two minute drill on the net to find their 1,200!

http://fortune.com/fortune500/delta-air-lines/

 

[Toobdrvr]

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

So if 6,500 people tried for the job fair is it safe to assume the number of applications on file is roughly around that?

IIRC Delta has well over 10,000 apps on file.


I don't get the "culture" issues. I always hear jokes about hats and double breasted jackets. But seriously, who cares? Once the cockpit door is shut I doubt flying an airplane is much different from one carrier to another. Sure, checklists are different, flows, callouts, etc. But that's just the nature of the job.

Typically, when I hear something like "Delta isn't my cup of tea" it's because 90% of the time, 1. they applied and haven't or can't get a call, or 2. interviewed and were not hired. It's especially more so puzzling when I heard a 9E guy say that. So Delta isn't you cup of tea, but flying Delta passengers on Delta painted jets around the Delta system is?

 

[word302]

IIRC Delta has well over 10,000 apps on file.


I don't get the "culture" issues. I always hear jokes about hats and double breasted jackets. But seriously, who cares? Once the cockpit door is shut I doubt flying an airplane is much different from one carrier to another. Sure, checklists are different, flows, callouts, etc. But that's just the nature of the job.

Typically, when I hear something like "Delta isn't my cup of tea" it's because 90% of the time, 1. they applied and haven't or can't get a call, or 2. interviewed and were not hired. It's especially more so puzzling when I heard a 9E guy say that. So Delta isn't you cup of tea, but flying Delta passengers on Delta painted jets around the Delta system is?

For less money.

 

[FlySooner9]

IIRC Delta has well over 10,000 apps on file.


?

So over 4,000 people didn't feel the need to try for the job expo?

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

So over 4,000 people didn't feel the need to try for the job expo?

Probably more. Busy weekend, already working, interviews at other airline, that they've already seen Delta in the last 12 months and meeting them again is a moot point in that timeframe. I'm sure there are other reasons, but not everyone is going to try and go to this job fair.

 

[JetDoc]

For less money.

Which just might have a wee bit to do with the resentment.

 

[Cptnchia]

Which just might have a wee bit to do with the resentment.

No ones forcing anyone to do the same job for less pay. Everyone ever hired by a regional knew the pay was way less. If no one took the job, then regionals wouldn't exist and there'd be more pilots flying for mainline carriers.

 

[Dphoenix]

So is 'can't get hired unless you have a fast internet connection' the new 'can't get hired unless you have boobs or are black?'

I was going to make a whole post about how laughable this was, considering the server was probably in Atlanta and I got a spot on Friday sitting at Whole Foods with my laptop and my cell phone both on their terrible, terrible free wi-fi network. (after the inevitable "slot you want is not available" error on my phone, i still got a slot on my laptop). Also, I had logged in maybe 3 minutes prior to the opening and had the page open that long, so clearly it wasn't about sitting camping that page for an hour or whatever.
And then I thought I'd check where the server was, pinged it... Portland, OR... run by.. Amazon Web Services.... Amazon who... wait for it... NOW owns Whole Foods.. and now it all checks out and I feel like Phillip J Fry.

 

[nsmith2224]

No ones forcing anyone to do the same job for less pay. Everyone ever hired by a regional knew the pay was way less. If no one took the job, then regionals wouldn't exist and there'd be more pilots flying for mainline carriers.

What?!

 

[amorris311]

No ones forcing anyone to do the same job for less pay. Everyone ever hired by a regional knew the pay was way less. If no one took the job, then regionals wouldn't exist and there'd be more pilots flying for mainline carriers.

That's an interesting take on stuffing the genie back in the bottle.