In-house Delta Job Fair, October 20/21 2017

Gonzo said:
Yea, I fly with guys that think all you have to do to get hired by the big 3 or the other three you named is apply.
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Oh I know.

"Why is X still at ABC?"

It's just not that simple. My recruiter friend has learned a lot over the past few years.
 
mastermags said:
Maybe some, definitely not all. And as @Derg says, Delta is not the only airline paying attention.
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I beg people all the damned time to be thoughtful because I can guarantee you if I, as an applicant, said, "Well, I don't want to work at California Pacific anyway, screw those guys, they can kiss my shiny ass", in minutes there are gasps in the office at Jetblue, Delta, United, FDX, SWA, UPS, Alaska, etc because we all watch what each other is doing and publicly shared information is publicly shared information and will absolutely affect your candidacy industry-wide.

Sadly, some posts on the DPR page have become like a Roman Spectacle where other recruitment teams come to watch candidates self immolate.

Horse. Water. Thirsty Horse.
 
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ian said:
i go to that page for laughs now....can't believe how many times darwin is winning there.
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Self Selection.

"I'm able to emote emotionally and you'll still hire me because there's a shortage, right?"

"RIGHT?!"
 
Derg said:
Oh I know.

"Why is X still at ABC?"

It's just not that simple. My recruiter friend has learned a lot over the past few years.
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I’m tired of guys who one of the first things they say is “when are you leaving?”

Current shop isn’t perfect by any means, but I’m still having a great time so far. Whether this is “home” yet, im not quite sure. But I think I’m young enough to ride it out a bit. If the timeline for the framework agreement falls through, then maybe I’ll start working hard and applying myself to move on.
 
jtrain609 said:
There are guys at Azul who think ANYONE can get hired here. ANYONE. I mean ALL THE FO'S ARE LEAVING (they're not), and NOBODY IS SHOWING UP FOR CLASS (not true). When I tell captains what's on my resume, and how I applied for years before I got a call, they're shocked. They truly don't understand that it's still hard to get hired at any airline that isn't a regional.

My guess is that it'll never be easy to get hired at the big three and the middleweight three (Alaska, Southwest and JetBlue). Whether everyone accepts that or not is up to them.
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I agree with your comments, jtrain609. The funny thing is that not too long ago, being hired by a regional of one's choice was almost a futile undertaking. My hat off to all the guys who were hired at the regionals before this regional pilot shortage began (coincidently, some of them are now struggling to be hired by a major). It makes me realize how easy I had it when I interviewed at the regionals.
 
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Derg said:
Horse. Water. Thirsty Horse.
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What they are saying/doing is wrong and no candidate should do that and basically shoot themselves in the foot for a job. But to play devils advocate....

To use that horse analogy, in this case it was 5,000 thirsty horses and the water you led them to was only enough for 600 horses, and they drank it all in less than 2 minutes. You're gonna have 4,400 horses who had no water. And seemingly, quite a few horses got their tongue into what they thought was water, but it was actually a mirage. (Signed in on time, as soon as it was open picked open slot, then got error message). Most are smart enough to keep it to themselves, but a few are gonna horse around.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
What they are saying/doing is wrong and no candidate should do that and basically shoot themselves in the foot for a job. But to play devils advocate....

To use that horse analogy, in this case it was 5,000 thirsty horses and the water you led them to was only enough for 600 horses, and they drank it all in less than 2 minutes. You're gonna have 4,400 horses who had no water. And seemingly, quite a few horses got their tongue into what they thought was water, but it was actually a mirage. (Signed in on time, as soon as it was open picked open slot, then got error message). Most are smart enough to keep it to themselves, but a few are gonna horse around.
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Derg said:
I spent some time thinking about the psychology behind people publicly showing their asses on social media and I think I have it figured out.

The drum beat says "SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE!" which, at some levels of aviation there is, but not at every level. So the perception is that "I've got all this stuff, you should be kissing my ass and offering me a job because I've got all this stuff".

But when 5000-plus people showed up for 600 slots and they were gone in less than two minutes, that personality profile got rattled and showed their true selves. The basic unfairness of something that they should have been a shoe-in for because clearly they're hiring everyone BUT people like them, which statistically (as proven) isn't accurate at all.

It's kind of like star of the play "Oklahoma" from Paducah High School (his professional circle) that everyone likes that moves to Los Angeles to pursue an acting career. Everyone says he's going to be a star, but once he gets to Hollywood (reality) he learns that absolutely everyone surrounding him played the lead in the high school play and others have been doing community theater, Broadway, Off-Broadway, commercials, Sitcoms and there's a lot of competition for that Crest commercial that pays scale and if he could just get that callback...
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In addition to that, I think the smart people are worried about the next economic cycle downturn. But getting hired on at a major and being high enough on that list. For when the next recession, depression or terrorist attack occurs, so that they don't get that pink slip. I know that, that would be a fear of mine, if I was in the game. Either getting to the big game and having my seat pulled from under me. Or not getting a seat before the music stops.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
What they are saying/doing is wrong and no candidate should do that and basically shoot themselves in the foot for a job. But to play devils advocate....

To use that horse analogy, in this case it was 5,000 thirsty horses and the water you led them to was only enough for 600 horses, and they drank it all in less than 2 minutes. You're gonna have 4,400 horses who had no water. And seemingly, quite a few horses got their tongue into what they thought was water, but it was actually a mirage. (Signed in on time, as soon as it was open picked open slot, then got error message). Most are smart enough to keep it to themselves, but a few are gonna horse around.
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I literally don't follow your logic here.
 
Lol. Just saw a guy write about how the process is unfair, Delta sucks, and is wondering why he can't get an interview. What is wrong with people? It's really sad and pathetic that people need to be told this.

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