Free in-house Delta Pilot Job Fair

ClarkGriswold said:
What more do you want besides an interview?
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Um, a job?


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RORO said:
Um, a job?


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Well, to be fair, what I was recently told in the jump by someone with friends in the hiring department....

....if you get the interview, you've got the job, until YOU lose it.

Don't cry during the interview (apparently it has happened), don't give canned answers to questions, be honest. If they ask a "stressful" or "hard" question and don't know the answer, then say you don't know. That's ok. At least admit you can look into and find the answer. Just don't try to fib around an answer and hope you're right. They are trying to see how one handles stress (because obviously one will be nervous/stressed in an interview). Look professional and don't have shirt tails hanging out. It's not a trial where you're trying to prove to them that you're better than the other applicants. More like they're just asking questions to justify their choice in selecting your app for an interview and future Delta employee.
 
Cptnchia said:
This is just my feeling about this and not anything "official," but I get the feeling that this is the end result of too many guys taking the job and then going to UAL, AA, SWA, when they get a job offer from them.

Traditionally, when you got called for an interview, you were basically hired, it was your job to lose. However, Delta only had a small window to get to know the applicant. By doing it this way, not only do they get more time with the applicant, the applicant gets more time with the company. That way, it cuts down on the lateral movers. For every spot an applicant takes, just to move on a few months later, is one less spot that someone who truly wants to work at Delta can have. Not to mention the cost of having to replace that individual.

Again, just my thoughts on this. I think it's a great idea. It's kinda like the old CP pre interview interviews. I want us to only hire those that really want to be here, not guys that are just looking for a paycheck until some other airline calls them.
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This is what I think might be going on.

It's really more about cost and career fair fatigue.

Hitting an big national, there's probably as little as $25K up to $100K in sponsorship fees and booth rental. Then there are things like $200 extension cord rentals, then you've got to pay travel time plus flight pay for 15 to 20 recruiters, meals, lodging, just going to a career fair run a tab of $200K if you're not careful as a pilot recruitment department.

Then there are the applicants. Days off, high costs, hotels, registration fees, standing around in line, confusion over "is this a fast pass?" "a reservation?" "standbys?" "walkups?" and you've got sometimes thousands of applicants who have dropped anywhere from $300 to $1000 depending on the organizer.

And the internet gossip is that you get "points for the number of job fairs you go to" WHICH IS NOT TRUE or if you went to one, but not the other you're "not showing interest" WHICH IS NOT TRUE, and so there are applicants that spend crap tons of money on the job fair circuit, paying tons of money on consulting fees, "bootcamps", application prep, etc and you have some people dropping the amount of cash to purchase a used car.

So there has been a listening campaign where they listen to the concerns of the applicant, the recruiter, real people giving real perspectives and the result is, that they want to run one on campus. It might work or it might not.

But this isn't the typical situation where the applicant gets the day off, jumpseats to Fresno. Drops $100 on a rental car, $400 in hotel fees over the span of a couple days, $350 in registration fees, $100 for a fast pass, THEN he stands in line for four hours in order to have someone say "Well, thanks for coming, we require 1000 hrs turbine fixed wing".

I bet they've done a lot of watching and listening to the concerns of the people involved.
 
B767 said:
Well, to be fair, what I was recently told in the jump by someone with friends in the hiring department....

....if you get the interview, you've got the job, until YOU lose it.

Don't cry during the interview (apparently it has happened), don't give canned answers to questions, be honest. If they ask a "stressful" or "hard" question and don't know the answer, then say you don't know. That's ok. At least admit you can look into and find the answer. Just don't try to fib around an answer and hope you're right. They are trying to see how one handles stress (because obviously one will be nervous/stressed in an interview). Look professional and don't have shirt tails hanging out. It's not a trial where you're trying to prove to them that you're better than the other applicants. More like they're just asking questions to justify their choice in selecting your app for an interview and future Delta employee.
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And get over the idea that there's no quasi seniority system where you electronically line up the guy at the shiniest carrier with the most flight time on the biggest airplane to the guy at the worst carrier with the least flight time and start from the top.

"I've got 9,000 hours, why haven't you called?" — that's not a recipe for a success.
 
Derg said:
I think they ask if you don't meet the minimums, leave the spot for someone who does. It really wouldn't help.

But if you have questions, you can always contact the recruitment team on their facebook page at http://DeltaPilotRecruiting.com
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@Derg does this include hours in last 12 months? I know there is no official number of hours listed but understand they're looking for a specific amount. I'm finishing up initial at a regional and probably won't have the currency hours you guys are looking for.
 
If you have questions in the next few hours, I'll try to text my contact and get them answered, otherwise, I'm going to wander off to the "The Lavatory" section to pick on some people to entertain myself. Say…. noon PHX time.

Kind of burned out offering the rhetorical "free taco" and then begging all y'all to take a bite and saying how you don't like shawarmas, but you want a taco. Le WOT?
 
To the bold points @Derg, how many times do you have to say those two things before people realize, well, that it's not true? Hell, it's practically been brought up in this thread already. Unless by "score" he meant "look at?"
 
TrustMeI'maPilot said:
@Derg does this include hours in last 12 months? I know there is no official number of hours listed but understand they're looking for a specific amount. I'm finishing up initial at a regional and probably won't have the currency hours you guys are looking for.
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They want you to meet all of the minimums at the time of the career fair as per the registration page.
 
B767 said:
To the bold points @Derg, how many times do you have to say those two things before people realize, well, that it's not true? Hell, it's practically been brought up in this thread already. Unless by "score" he meant "look at?"
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The misinformation is strong.

If you get a group of pilots, sequester them to pilot internet websites and pilot lounges, sprinkle in some frustration and say "THE SKY IS PINK" long enough, you can have Neil De Grasse Tyson walk in, do a presentation on how the sky is actually blue, with foot-stompin' experience, you've got a 26 page debate going on every time.

A lot of people aren't looking for information, only confirmation of what they surmise to be the truth. That was a bitter pill that I had to swallow years ago.
 
Derg said:
And get over the idea that there's no quasi seniority system where you electronically line up the guy at the shiniest carrier with the most flight time on the biggest airplane to the guy at the worst carrier with the least flight time and start from the top.

"I've got 9,000 hours, why haven't you called?" — that's not a recipe for a success.
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AND for the love of all that is holy, have something for the end of the interview (questions or a pitch...not a cake). When they ask "do you have anything for us" have something! Questions or a 90 second pitch about how/why you'd be a good fit at the place you're interviewing for.

(We could keep going with the "ands" all day).


I don't meet the mins for Delta, never interviewed, not part of the hiring team, etc. Nothing. I'm just trying to pass along some information that was passed along to me. And I'm guessing it was good/solid info since it seems to jive with what you say from your friend. Just trying to help reinforce some things. Especially for the ones going to the event.
 
B767 said:
AND for the love of all that is holy, have something for the end of the interview (questions or a pitch...not a cake). When they ask "do you have anything for us" have something! Questions or a 90 second pitch about how/why you'd be a good fit at the place you're interviewing for.

(We could keep going with the "ands" all day).


I don't meet the mins for Delta, never interviewed, not part of the hiring team, etc. Nothing. I'm just trying to pass along some information that was passed along to me.
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My friend would sometimes say, "This is YOUR time, you have unique opportunity to ask a direct question and if I don't have an answer, I can walk over to someone who knows on the spot, are you sure?" :)
 
B767 said:
When they ask "do you have anything for us" have something! Questions or a 90 second pitch about how/why you'd be a good fit at the place you're interviewing for.
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Or, simply, "thank you for the opportunity" and leave it at that.

There are plenty of opportunities in the actual interview to explain why you think you'd be a good fit (e.g. "tell us about yourself" right at the beginning) as well as opportunities to demonstrate it in how you answer the situational questions.

There's no need to come up with some "closing statement" or a contrived question just to have something to say before shaking hands and walking out the door of the interview room. The impression has all ready been made by that point.

"Thank you for the opportunity to join your team", with a firm handshake and a smile is a simple and powerful statement, too.
 
B767 said:
Well, to be fair, what I was recently told in the jump by someone with friends in the hiring department....

....if you get the interview, you've got the job, until YOU lose it.

Don't cry during the interview (apparently it has happened), don't give canned answers to questions, be honest. If they ask a "stressful" or "hard" question and don't know the answer, then say you don't know. That's ok. At least admit you can look into and find the answer. Just don't try to fib around an answer and hope you're right. They are trying to see how one handles stress (because obviously one will be nervous/stressed in an interview). Look professional and don't have shirt tails hanging out. It's not a trial where you're trying to prove to them that you're better than the other applicants. More like they're just asking questions to justify their choice in selecting your app for an interview and future Delta employee.
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Totally agree man, i was just giving clark a hard time
 
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