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Anyone else have a lot of trouble with crew outfitters? I ordered my stuff during indoc (2 months to the day) and still haven't gotten my luggage/pubs case. Been bugging them for the past week, unreturned emails and phone calls.
on another note for interested parties, the third base has been put on the back burner for now. The 145s will be coming to EWR early next year
 
bimmerphile said:
Anyone else have a lot of trouble with crew outfitters? I ordered my stuff during indoc (2 months to the day) and still haven't gotten my luggage/pubs case. Been bugging them for the past week, unreturned emails and phone calls.
on another note for interested parties, the third base has been put on the back burner for now. The 145s will be coming to EWR early next year
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If you're looking for a pub case I've got a nylon one from luggage works I'll sell you cheap. Been use for about a year.
 
Derg said:
I'm a firm believer in the MMPI and the psych eval my friend! :)

Firrrrrrrrrrrrrmly believe not everyone needs to be at my shop.

errr… shoppe.
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If only your shop gave you such psych & personality exams when you interviewed oh protector of the high realm...:def:.....;)
 
bimmerphile said:
Anyone else have a lot of trouble with crew outfitters? I ordered my stuff during indoc (2 months to the day) and still haven't gotten my luggage/pubs case. Been bugging them for the past week, unreturned emails and phone calls.
on another note for interested parties, the third base has been put on the back burner for now. The 145s will be coming to EWR early next year
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I ordered new pants in February and still haven't got them. They are on "backorder". Talking with other C5 folks, this is not uncommon. Crew Outfitters sucks.
 
TrustMeI'maPilot said:
What are you guys seeing for average line value each month?
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Average seems to be about 85 hours. High credit is low 90's

As a junior IAD Dash captain, my line in July was 86 hours and 14 days off. 9 of those days off in a row. And I even forgot to bid, that was just my default bid. I don't put much in the way of preferences either.

June was only 11 days off, but 94 hours. Most of that was due to the training backlog we had in both seats. Captains and F/O's taken for the 145 and many new F/O's stuck waiting for check airman to be signed off. We seem to be solving these issues now. The 145's are flying revenue as well.
 
Some updates: 10 people in the CPP have received class dates with United this fall. Congrats if anyone on JC
Rumors: 10 per quarter for the CPP next year. I don't know how they will keep up with that, but apparently that's the plan
27 new hires scheduled in Sept class, all going to E145
I heard no Dash upgrades in Oct, but the company message board says 3 in each base

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@bimmerphile and others who care to expand on this... Because this is folks seem to be excited about "10 per quarter." I'm not sure if it's sarcasm.

If 40 per yr in CPP, and C5 has a pilot group of approx 250+, and growing. Growth expected at 450-600 in two yrs...... let do the math.

40 + 40 + 40 + 40 + 40= that's 5 40's and that = 200.... So that's 5 years estimated to get to United at current figures and exciting rumor of 40/yr (IF accepted by United, IF you pass the Hogan).

In 2-3 maybe years C5 pilot group is suppose to be 500-600..... if adjusted to with 40 "hogan-interview-pass-flowing" that's approx 10 yrs for 400 pilots to move onward to United, and that's if 400 pilots are at C5 pilot group in two years who pass the CPP (estimating 150-200 don't). Is my math wrong? Am i missing something? Just trying to be like Anderson Cooper and try to "fact check" during the new-room show segment "keeping them honest". 10 per quarter is low.


I think C5 pilots should hope for more than 10 pilots per quarter (40/yr to move up to United through CPP). Waiting 8-10+ years, one pilot could get pick-up by another major off the streets and it's already happening (XJT, Envoy FO's & Captains). United will need to show 2 years from now how many they have passed hogan & interview, and moved up into United. If those numbers look good, it will help C5 recruiting numbers, if not, the CPP dangling carrot will be laughed at as a joke.

Which brings up another supporting issue occurring now at Envoy, XJT, plus other regionals. They are being poached by Alaska, Hawaiian, JetBlue, Frontier, Allegiant, Spirit, Emirates, Qatar, Cathay, loads of Chinese, Korean/Vietnam- Asian growth, Corporate fishing from the regionals.

For CPP carrot to be effective 1-2yrs from now United will have to take more than 40/yr in my observation. C5 wants to be the size of TSA in 2 years.... that's tough recruiting.
 
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That is awesome that C5 Pilots have the opportunity to flow, but what if an applicant in question washes out with the Hogan? I guess that the same line of thought applies here as with Endeavor or the AA wholly owneds: pick a regional because it satisfies your career and lifestyle goals, not because of a flow of guaranteed interview.
 
ScorpionStinger said:
@bimmerphile and others who care to expand on this... Because this is folks seem to be excited about "10 per quarter." I'm not sure if it's sarcasm.

If 40 per yr in CPP, and C5 has a pilot group of approx 250+, and growing. Growth expected at 450-600 in two yrs...... let do the math.

40 + 40 + 40 + 40 + 40= that's 5 40's and that = 200.... So that's 5 years estimated to get to United at current figures and exciting rumor of 40/yr (IF accepted by United, IF you pass the Hogan).

In 2-3 maybe years C5 pilot group is suppose to be 500-600..... if adjusted to with 40 "hogan-interview-pass-flowing" that's approx 10 yrs for 400 pilots to move onward to United, and that's if 400 pilots are at C5 pilot group in two years who pass the CPP (estimating 150-200 don't). Is my math wrong? Am i missing something? Just trying to be like Anderson Cooper and try to "fact check" during the new-room show segment "keeping them honest". 10 per quarter is low.


I think C5 pilots should hope for more than 10 pilots per quarter (40/yr to move up to United through CPP). Waiting 8-10+ years, one pilot could get pick-up by another major off the streets and it's already happening (XJT, Envoy FO's & Captains). United will need to show 2 years from now how many they have passed hogan & interview, and moved up into United. If those numbers look good, it will help C5 recruiting numbers, if not, the CPP dangling carrot will be laughed at as a joke.

Which brings up another supporting issue occurring now at Envoy, XJT, plus other regionals. They are being poached by Alaska, Hawaiian, JetBlue, Frontier, Allegiant, Spirit, Emirates, Qatar, Cathay, loads of Chinese, Korean/Vietnam- Asian growth, Corporate fishing from the regionals.

For CPP carrot to be effective 1-2yrs from now United will have to take more than 40/yr in my observation. C5 wants to be the size of TSA in 2 years.... that's tough recruiting.
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As a rejectee of the Hogan and consequently CPP, I don't have a dog in this fight per se. And it's dangling a carrot in my opinion no matter what the actual numbers are, so I'm not a huge fan. BUT, that being said, the fact that people are finally getting pulled into UAL and leaving the company is a pretty big deal as bimmerphile noted. It has actually happened (or is beginning to) which is a big deal. No one believed we were getting the 145's until they showed up!
 
Max Power said:
As a rejectee of the Hogan and consequently CPP, I don't have a dog in this fight per se. And it's dangling a carrot in my opinion no matter what the actual numbers are, so I'm not a huge fan. BUT, that being said, the fact that people are finally getting pulled into UAL and leaving the company is a pretty big deal as bimmerphile noted. It has actually happened (or is beginning to) which is a big deal. No one believed we were getting the 145's until they showed up!
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I hear that you can take the Hogan twice before your dreams of working at UAL are finished. Hopefully you're not at that point.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
I hear that you can take the Hogan twice before your dreams of working at UAL are finished. Hopefully you're not at that point.
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We had a few guys prior to the CPP go United after multiple Hogan takes. One guy was the son of a CAL 757 pilot, not sure of the true effect of that, but the other one had multiple letters of rec but multiple Hogan takes. I'd be nuts to say I wouldn't want to work for UAL, but I'm not completely sold on the CPP or my chance at United. I'm at nearly 400 TPIC and I'd like to hit 1000 before I throw myself hardcore into job hunting, but I do keep my apps updated.
 
Max Power said:
We had a few guys prior to the CPP go United after multiple Hogan takes. One guy was the son of a CAL 757 pilot, not sure of the true effect of that, but the other one had multiple letters of rec but multiple Hogan takes. I'd be nuts to say I wouldn't want to work for UAL, but I'm not completely sold on the CPP or my chance at United. I'm at nearly 400 TPIC and I'd like to hit 1000 before I throw myself hardcore into job hunting, but I do keep my apps updated.
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Get that PIC EMB-145 type before you leave too, just in case. quite a few uses for it outside the 121 world.
 
rockman2343@aol.com said:
Get that PIC EMB-145 type before you leave too, just in case. quite a few uses for it outside the 121 world.
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I plan to stay with the Dash until the schedules get bad, they get moved to EWR and/or the bugs are worked out of the jet program. Still some teething issues for us operationally with the 145. Mainly training and scheduling, but lots of reserve for those on the 145. I want no part of couch sitting until I'm closer to that 1000 mark, if I can help it.
 
Dashes all gone by mid January (according to management), no more dhc in ewr by end of Oct

22 erj, parking 21 props, and supposedly back to taking 2 erj a month once all the dashes are parked. 330 pilots
 
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