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”…trusting ze process…”
Time to hustle?But the internet…
Hell, my own page still says I'm a 767 FO.
Yet another thread about interview techniques.
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I wasn't going to respond to this because this is your experience and that is fine, but I am bored so here goes. I think what you describe is the fundamental reason I say AMF isn't a true two crew environment, not in any fleet. If you fly for a large company, you as the captain aren't "delegating" tasks to the other crew member. And although you will have bad pilots or weird pilots at any company, trust is something that doesn't even need to come into play at these companies where CRM is actually taught, integrated into sim scenarios, and SOP separates tasks and actions for the Captain and First Officer, and the FOM or GOM lays out responsibilities for each crew member. I fly with different Captains almost every tour, I never have to worry about if this guy is gonna pull his weight, and neither does he for me, and we never have to figure out which tasks and responsibilities were done or not, because we both have a clear understanding of our roles and responsibilities.
Can a Bro FO do a preflight? I know the Korean FOs cannot preflight.
KLB
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I could have shown up after the freight loaded and we were ready to go and I was totally comfortable that everything was done properly by my FO's in the bro AMF. Those guys were top rate. Heck, one is even at United now. (Not rumored to be). He is almost done with class as we speak.
AMF bro procedures aren't any different from either if the other two company when it comes to responsibility. If anything it was a bit more relaxed. The only thing my FO's didn't do was fly from the right seat. And I would have gladly let them if the company allowed it.
KLB
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The flew from the right seat. I meant to write "left" in my previous post. I'm in my six month check today and it's a whopping 13 hrs between ground, briefs, and the checkride. I tried to squeeze that last post in on a 10 minute break and screwed it up.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Does anyone have a link to those ALPA Delta and United pilot hiring graphics that showed the hiring so far from 2014-present, how many hired, average age, average hours, etc?
It was posted in a thread but I lost track of where it is.
It was posted in a thread but I lost track of where it is.
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Agree... It is a pain on both ends but I believe it works both ways. What is most important is finding out who or what the company is just as the company is finding out who the person is up for hire in such a short period of time (short time is difficult like judging a book by it's cover). What recruiters are looking for in any employee should be weighed and balanced the same as what the employee is looking for in a company. It's almost the same as dating someone in a sense
. Speed dating don't seem to come out for the best of both company or individual. One comes out ahead of the game at the end for either the lack of loyalty or the individual being taken advantage of by being just another number and overworked (burn out). I know many here would not agree but I would rather be jobless than working around a stressful environment. The stressful environment comes from coworkers within a company.Story telling is easy...ummm, do recruiters prefeer fiction or non-fiction? Why?
maybe I'm wrong? non-fiction=task personal/fiction=problem solvers (they put humpty dumpty back together where the others just simply read the story like they are told to do)
Minimums and rate of pay means everything in my opinion. This should be talked about before the interview even takes place at all. Everyone should know who is doing all the work and who is not doing any work and making all the money (who is the pimp and who are the...). After this the next thing to talk about is time off followed by 5 star hotel perks.
Where do I apply so we can start feeling for each other? Many pilots enjoy flying next to someone like me.
Best stories are told when you are doing something wrong where boring stories are told when you are doing something right...right?
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But the internet…
Hell, my own page still says I'm a 767 FO.
Derg, my puter is real slow...It says that on mine too about you...You think I can send it to you to fix? :stir:
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Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
A thing to keep in mind is every single retirement chart is based on Age 65 solely. While many want to go to 65, there are so many things that can happen. Medical out, early retirement, can't do it anymore, ailing health, retire at 60 because one can, family situation changes requiring an earlier leave, etc.
I think you are seeing people go to 65 these days because of the lost decade and they are trying to get the income back considering all they have lost. But once the going is good, you may see many guys not even go to 65. Honestly, if you can afford to, why not retire a little early and enjoy the little ones or the little's little ones?
I think you are seeing people go to 65 these days because of the lost decade and they are trying to get the income back considering all they have lost. But once the going is good, you may see many guys not even go to 65. Honestly, if you can afford to, why not retire a little early and enjoy the little ones or the little's little ones?
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Bill Kennedy stated that for United the average is about 63 years for retirement. Lots don't make it to 65.
Tommay85
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No, it's still two crew, but AMF still hangs the captain, entirely, like in the other planes as if they were flying with a Korean FO. Gear pins, oil caps, cones, chocks, and ALL doors are something I still check myself, even in the 120 because I know what happens if one of those results in a problem. Given that the Braz has to comply with 121 maintenance, equipment, and dispatch requirements, most of those shouldn't even fall under the crew's responsibility anyways, but they still do in one way or another, or have.
That being said, there has been a MASSIVE shift away from punitive safety, but when you started with that, it's challenging to get it out of your head.
But, the point was, I've not seen anything particularly different between managing a flight single pilot or as a crew. The trust thing is just worrying about my own bum getting in trouble and takes about a minute and a half to double check anyways.
The ranting about the training program was merely illustrating why AMF Metro guys may have an over-inflated sense of pride and even a bit smugness with the experience. There's a very high number that don't make it through training and/or have pretty severe incidents on-line. Especially, compared to the rest of the fleet. I can facetube you about one...
Hey, I have nothing but respect for everyone on here, even if I very vocally disagree with something. My eyes do/will still always light up especially bright meeting another tube driver though.
This has nothing to do with interview techniques, and probably not relevant to the thread. Just balancing @Inverted
What the WHO?!
Screaming_Emu
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Time for him to bid back to something with more girth.
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I have no idea but that just sounds painful. Wait, are you talking about the new airplanes big enough where people spew out the tip of the nose cone during an emergency? Have you seent those? They use to be top secret until I seent them in a movie. The pilots are thought about first in this design. I wish they would give up the girth thing and just produce the flying wing at the least.
I never had an image of a body part flying through the air until just now by your selective word choice. My career is over.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I'm just gonna go ahead and leave this right here..............................
