ctab5060X
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At my shop, we only brief the callouts for CAT II and III approaches.
@typhoonpilot is spot on with his commentary:
To further expand this line of discussion, it also should be stated that in the simulator environment, we all know the go-around is coming at some point. We are primed and ready to push the TOGA button and recite our callouts. However, in the real world, how primed are we for a go-around on every approach. On approaches where the weather is close to minimums, probably so. But what about beautiful VMC days? Are we mentally ready for the unexpected go-around? How many of us guard the TOGA and Autopilot Disconnect buttons below 1000 AFE. It's SOP at my airline, but I see a fair amount of non-compliance...
Regarding go-arounds from above 1000 AFE, another reason they seem to get screwed up is perhaps we as a group aren't mentally prepared for a go-around from a non-minimums altitude. We do train "soft" go-arounds above 1000 AFE in the sim, but not near to the extent of go-arounds from minimums. I think it is something that should possibly get a little more emphasis as the soft go-around from above 1000 AFE is a very, very simple maneuver in my fleet.
Back to the original topic, I rarely brief the go-around callouts. That being said, after reading the first post and the subsequent comments, I am taking a very hard look at trying to include the callouts in my briefings. After seeing a couple of ugly go-arounds from the PM seat, where the main thing missing were the PF callouts, briefing them at least once per crew pairing or once per leg doesn't seem like a bad idea.
@typhoonpilot is spot on with his commentary:
To further expand this line of discussion, it also should be stated that in the simulator environment, we all know the go-around is coming at some point. We are primed and ready to push the TOGA button and recite our callouts. However, in the real world, how primed are we for a go-around on every approach. On approaches where the weather is close to minimums, probably so. But what about beautiful VMC days? Are we mentally ready for the unexpected go-around? How many of us guard the TOGA and Autopilot Disconnect buttons below 1000 AFE. It's SOP at my airline, but I see a fair amount of non-compliance...
Regarding go-arounds from above 1000 AFE, another reason they seem to get screwed up is perhaps we as a group aren't mentally prepared for a go-around from a non-minimums altitude. We do train "soft" go-arounds above 1000 AFE in the sim, but not near to the extent of go-arounds from minimums. I think it is something that should possibly get a little more emphasis as the soft go-around from above 1000 AFE is a very, very simple maneuver in my fleet.
Back to the original topic, I rarely brief the go-around callouts. That being said, after reading the first post and the subsequent comments, I am taking a very hard look at trying to include the callouts in my briefings. After seeing a couple of ugly go-arounds from the PM seat, where the main thing missing were the PF callouts, briefing them at least once per crew pairing or once per leg doesn't seem like a bad idea.
