Jennifer Aniston pitches for Emirates
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SlumTodd_Millionaire
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I disagree. A celebrity doing a commercial is not just a role, it's a product endorsement. She's basically saying "screw America, fly on those foreign carriers!"
darrenf
resident denizen
And I called it what it was. I'll wait while you find me doing anything you've accused me of. I'm starting to think that you think this web site is just about arguing with bogeymen.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Most Americans will see that ad and think, "Oh wow! If only they were allowed to fly domestic, (which is what all the foreign carriers want eventually,) I can travel in style to grandma's!" And then call their congressman to allow cabotage. The reality is that they'll be in coach class instead.
Not much different. Other than the fact that I can get a pulled pork sandwich on Delta. When they have them.
FloridaLarry
Well-Known Member
Take away the bins, make the windows bigger - you've got a modern office cubicle only curvy.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
State money for Emirates? ALPA pitchline or is there concrete proof?
As for labor laws, actually they do have UAE labor laws. Part of those laws include things like end-of-service payment andthat unions are illegal. Anyway, a 1st year EK F/A makes ~ $4k USD per month and gets free housing, a private bedroom in an apartment shared with another FA.
Now if you want to talk about Qatar Airways, that's another story in terms of how al-Baker treats his FAs.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Exactly, $30k tickets and they still fill it up. Must be doing something right. When UA is chargin 9k for FC and Emirates does 30k and fills it up, perhaps these are the real reasons EK is the power horse that it is.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
It's easy to "make money" on $30k tickets when you don't have to exist in a free market like United does.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
De-regulation, Gulf War, 9/11, Age 65, or outsourcing RJs and letting regionals become what they are, did far more harm than anything Emirates or Qatar has done.
Oh what's next? I'm gonna get hounded for not buying an American car?
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
One Emirates destination is Dubai. The other ~150+ are not, which means they play with all the rules like everybody else.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Oh what's next? I'm gonna get hounded for not buying an American car?
Foreign? I don't care. Non-union? Yeah, I'll give you a hard time.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Uh huh. You're really drinking that kool aid.
Next you're going to tell me that the pope is Catholic.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Better than ALPA's poison on Emirates. Again, I'll give you Qatar and Etihad which are state-sponsored and definitely would not have made it if it wasn't for their respective Qatar and Abhu Dhabi government helping them, but EK has been around for 30 years now and got their state sponsored help a long time ago when PIA was used to first launch Emirates in 1985 - which my uncle did when he was a A300 F/E, those planes were painted in EK colors.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
Emirates is still subsidized. If you believe otherwise, you're pretty gullible.
And I've been openly critical of ALPA's hard line stance on the ME carriers. I think ALPA has far bigger fish to fry, and Moak's (and now Moak's Brain) fetish of the ME3 issue is just Anderson using his lapdog to push his agenda. But just because ALPA goes a little overboard on the rhetoric doesn't make the underlying facts change.
And I've been openly critical of ALPA's hard line stance on the ME carriers. I think ALPA has far bigger fish to fry, and Moak's (and now Moak's Brain) fetish of the ME3 issue is just Anderson using his lapdog to push his agenda. But just because ALPA goes a little overboard on the rhetoric doesn't make the underlying facts change.
Cav
Former Maddog Whisperer
Most Americans will see that ad and think, "Oh wow! If only they were allowed to fly domestic, (which is what all the foreign carriers want eventually,) I can travel in style to grandma's!" And then call their congressman to allow cabotage. The reality is that they'll be in coach class instead.
Not much different. Other than the fact that I can get a pulled pork sandwich on Delta. When they have them.
The reality is that the ad will have little impact whatsoever. Emirates' target customers in the US are well aware of the ammenities they offer and already on board and their opinion won't change. They use their miles or company funds for the most luxurious seat they can buy and I can't blame them. Those that aren't? They're not really in play and frankly those are the ones that will see the add. This says a lot more about the political struggle than it does about attracting new Emitates ticket purchasers. It has political implications for sure but Jennifer Anniston right or wrong on the issues is a bumbling idiot.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Specific proof of subsidies? Leaked documents? Something concrete?
typhoonpilot
Well-Known Member
What are the implications for UAL pilots when the company buys a part of Azul? What are the implications for Delta pilots when the company buys part of China Eastern?
Your enemy is not foreign competition. Lower priced foreign competition and state sponsored competition has existed for decades and it will continue to exist well into the future. The airline employees' enemy more accurately is their own airline management's concept of what is good for the airline, versus what is good for the employees. They will continue alliances, code shares, equity stakes, etc all in an effort to outsource growth to lower cost entities.
I've it before and I'll say it again, there is a whole new and growing passenger base in the previously third world countries that did not travel 20 years ago. The growth in that market is huge. The potential in that market is huge. Yet, the U.S. carriers are not tapping into it. They are too busy with capacity controls in the U.S. domestic market and across the Atlantic. Okay great, that is working for now but it is not going to be good for them over the long term as all these new entrants are gaining huge market share at their (and their alliance partners) expense.
It's not the world of 40 years ago where the vast majority of worldwide airline travel was in the small space between the Mississippi river and the eastern seaboard. You have to recognize that fact. The U.S. airlines have to recognize that fact. Companies in every industry have to adapt to the changing marketplace or they will perish. Failure to adapt to those changes would be what decimates* the U.S. airline industry.
Typhoonpilot
* I hate that word because it means reduce by 10% and is used incorrectly all the time.
Seggy
Well-Known Member
@typhoonpilot what you type is bullcrap. If the Middle East Carriers JUST want to connect passengers from the United States to Banglalore, then why did they start JFK to MXP service?