darrenf
resident denizen
I never said anything to the contrary.
Jennifer Aniston pitches for Emirates
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AAPalmTree
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darrenf
resident denizen
Alrighty then.
nagylyk
Well-Known Member
You sir, have very fine taste!A classic beauty
No tat's on her neck or face.
No piercings on her face.
Never made published a sex tape.
A butt that would fit in your hands.
Is not friends with anyone named Kardashian
Makes a darn fine income.
F
Flying Saluki
Guest
If you've ever purchased a foreign-made product, the same could be said about you.
She's an actress paid to play a role. You can't look at it any deeper than that.
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typhoonpilot
Well-Known Member
Most U.S. carriers no longer have a First Class on international routes, they only have a Business Class. The entire upper deck of an Emirates A380 seats 76 in Business and 14 in First. Quite often Business Class travelers get bumped up to the First Class cabin or the frequent traveler will use miles to buy the upgrade so a better comparison on price would be an EK Business class fare versus a U.S. carrier's business class fare.
That is an exaggeration based on ALPA and the U.S. airline industry's campaign against the ME3. While there is certainly some State support of Etihad and Qatar, the same is not so true for Emirates. Yes the Dubai government encourages and helps the airline because it's good for the country, but it's Emirates that pays the Dubai government a dividend from their profit every year.
There are labor laws, just not the same ones that exist in the USA. Mandatory 30 days vacation per year for all employees is one such law. How much vacation does a U.S. airline employee start with at year one?
Emirates runs a profit every year. The A380 Business Class is a huge money maker for the airline on quite a few routes. It's called hub and spoke, which the U.S. carriers invented. Atlanta alone could not sustain the volume of passengers and traffic it has based on Atlanta O and D traffic, nor could any hub city for any major airline in the world. Bit of a double standard to then say that it's absurd that Dubai has a large volume of traffic, or Singapore, or Denver, or Seattle, etc
The U.S. carriers have been improving their product slowly over the last decade and it's starting to get competitive versus the rest of the world. I've said before that DAL's international Business class product is pretty okay.
It's the U.S. carriers and their network partner's absence in the growing parts of the world that will be their undoing versus the competition. We've all heard the phrase the nature abhors a vacuum as it pertains to business. Neither the U.S. carriers; their network partners; nor the local airlines of the respective countries served were able to see and meet the demand for air travel on the routes that Emirates are serving.
The ALPA/U.S. airline strategy is very much to try guilt by association when it comes to Emirates. Emirates is the true long term competitive threat, but none of the accusations about subsidies can be pinned on them while it can on Etihad and Qatar. Do some critical thinking for yourselves instead of blindly believing the simple sound bites of ALPA and the Coalition.
Typhoonpilot
scooter2525
Very well Member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but most guys can't use the 30 days there, or if they can, they can't take it in a chunk to go home to wherever. Reading through other boards, I see less praises and more complaints for a variety of reasons.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Well, I hate to say, I'd fly on Emirates every day of the week before Delta and other US carriers (even though international Delta One is a good product overall). Remember, most people who fly in business/first aren't upper-class folks going on exotic vacations; many of us are simply working stiffs who are jetting around on the company dime. Given a choice (which I fairly often do), the answer is clear: The US carriers must start catching up to international carriers in general (not just the "ME3") if they want to compete in the international marketplace going forward.
Consumers aren't DL/UA/AA pilots looking to protect their own interests; consumers in the international biz/first world are looking for amenities, and those amenities are lacking on US carriers.
P.S.: Those first class tickets on Emirates are not cheap. Emirates charges (and gets) what they're worth.
Consumers aren't DL/UA/AA pilots looking to protect their own interests; consumers in the international biz/first world are looking for amenities, and those amenities are lacking on US carriers.
P.S.: Those first class tickets on Emirates are not cheap. Emirates charges (and gets) what they're worth.
Cal Goat
Prestige Worldwide™
Oh absolutely. But you simply can't compare this product to the US airlines on price alone. How do working stiffs justify expensing $30k vs $9k?
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Bad example on my part, perhaps.
Emirates isn't generally near $30k, but that's exactly my point: They're not undercutting anyone. They charge more (and get more) because of the amenities on their aircraft. They dominate the US carriers in those segments because US carriers are slow to adapt to the international marketplace in business/first.
Heck, here's a recent China Airlines flight I was on:
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AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
You don't mind the US airline industry being "decimated?" My family does.
darrenf
resident denizen
Show me where I said such a thing.
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
Bullseye it for me. What are you saying?
darrenf
resident denizen
I thought I was clear. It was a pedantic conversation on the difference between a company and an industry.
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
Sure, if you fail to read between the lines.
darrenf
resident denizen
Or if you routinely misrepresent people's statements. Please find anywhere in my post history where I have ever wanted anything but the best for the airlines. When you fail, which you undoubtably will, kindly walk back your statements. Thanks.
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
Easy man. Let me take a WAG you don't fly 121? I can see how'd you miss what a few of us are getting at here. My apologies if you're offended. I figured anyone on this site could understand the external threat to the US industry from foreign carriers. You probably have a totally different feeling from some of us when you see a Norwegian 787 or an Emirates 380.
darrenf
resident denizen
I understand the threat, and never said anything differently. Like I said before, it was a pedantic discussion that you chose to "incorrectly read into". I also don't need to fly 121 to see the potential threat that state sponsored airlines can be. Next time you might want to slow your roll and read what is written instead of "reading between the lines". Anyone that knows me, including those that have been here for years to a decade and more, knows that I don't beat around the bush.