Delta TA

[PeanuckleCRJ]

It was a landslide sure enough... just completely the other direction. Quoted for posterity:

Prediction:

The Internet will scream Vote NOOOOOO!

Possibly another physical confrontation or two at the road shows

Passes 60-40

Impossible to find anyone thereafter who voted yes

Looks like a damned good contract. Congrats.

While there will be the fair share of No votes, this will pass easily. Personally I find this 3 year deal pretty reasonable. Easy Yes vote for me

I'm betting 70%+. A landslide by pilot contract standards.

I told you guys he'd immediately jump on the YES YES YES bandwagon.

There's alot of misinformation out there plus alot of bad math. Also alot of folks think they no better than Mike Donatelli or DALPA's professional negotiations and are sure the company will return to the table with more gains in short order. Once the MEC clears up the misinformation at the road shows I'm thinking it passes 65-35

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Probably not. It's ok.

Sometimes it's just time to put your man-pants on and do what you think is right for the profession.

It may explode in our face, it may not, but at the end of the day, our group has made a decision.

Bingo... now comes the hard work to clean this mess up.

 

[derg]

Bingo... now comes the hard work to clean this mess up.

One of my long-term mentors just texted me and said, "Rejoice, but now the hard work begins. I only have 196 days left (but who is counting) and I couldn't do it to you guys by voting yes for a scant few dollars, if even"

 

[derg]

I'm sorry, it was "real work" he said not "hard work"

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

It was a landslide sure enough... just completely the other direction. Quoted for posterity:

You realize that the posts are already here for posterity, right?

 

[Seggy]

That's their job.

BULLCRAP!

You volunteer for a union position. With that you have a DUTY, not a job, to properly represent your pilots in the representational democracy ALPA is.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Semantics.

 

[Seggy]

They matter.

 

[Cptnchia]

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong and this works out well for them. I just seriously doubt it. I predict 3+ years to another TA.

Delta can't afford to park us for 3+ years. They have a huge problem with training, sick leave, and profit sharing. Going forward, the problem will continue to grow and cost them money. Plus, they need to replace the M88s as they seem to have a problem with making them RNAV compliant. They thought that just throwing money at us would get us to solve their problems on the cheap. RA and team are smart people. They already had a "plan B" in their back pocket. Yes, there will be "theater" as both sides reengage, but in the end, it'll be wrapped up within a year.

 

[ctab5060X]

Delta can't afford to park us for 3+ years. They have a huge problem with training, sick leave, and profit sharing. Going forward, the problem will continue to grow and cost them money. Plus, they need to replace the M88s as they seem to have a problem with making them RNAV compliant. They thought that just throwing money at us would get us to solve their problems on the cheap. RA and team are smart people. They already had a "plan B" in their back pocket. Yes, there will be "theater" as both sides reengage, but in the end, it'll be wrapped up within a year.

@Cptnchia

Welcome back!

 

[BobDDuck]

Delta can't afford to park us for 3+ years. They have a huge problem with training, sick leave, and profit sharing. Going forward, the problem will continue to grow and cost them money. Plus, they need to replace the M88s as they seem to have a problem with making them RNAV compliant. They thought that just throwing money at us would get us to solve their problems on the cheap. RA and team are smart people. They already had a "plan B" in their back pocket. Yes, there will be "theater" as both sides reengage, but in the end, it'll be wrapped up within a year.

Not to mention, if it starts to drag on, the stock price may start to take a hit with the news of labor unrest. The Board won't stand for that for very long.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Share price finished higher after the vote today. Institutional investors don't pay a whole lot of attention to this stuff until it's coming down to the wire.

 

[Cav]

That's their job.

This is so weak and an example of how you (national) and the rest of our MEC are completely out of touch. It's arrogant ignorance.

 

[Cav]

YooHoo @Trip7 where are you???? I thought you knew what was best for DL pilots after a whole what? 14 months on property.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

This is so weak and an example of how you (national) and the rest of our MEC are completely out of touch. It's arrogant ignorance.

I haven't been "national" in a while now. I'm just some dude looking in from the outside.

 

[Cav]

I haven't been "national" in a while now. I'm just some dude looking in from the outside.

Yeah. Right. You're national. In DALPA speak, the MEC is where you go when the LEC people you claimed to represent are sick of you. National is where you go when the MEC is sick of you.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

You know I'm not even in the industry anymore, right? I'm not national.

 

[Cav]

You know I'm not even in the industry anymore, right? I'm not national.

Very aware

But @ATN_Pilot just want to say that I respect how you show up and don't back down from your position. I may disagree with you but I always know where you stand which is why you're a good Union guy. Also why when I mentioned "national" I put it in a DAL reference. I can't speak for other situations.

 

[Polar742]

 

[ian]

It was a landslide sure enough... just completely the other direction. Quoted for posterity:

Cold cold cold