Why did you go 135 to 121 or the other way around?

Box hauler said:
I see many people on here have gone 135/91 to a 121 and love it but at the same time many people who went 121 to 135/91 and are very happy. As someone who has only done 135 freight and EMS I am just trying to build a picture of why people seem to enjoy one over the other. Thanks for sharing
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This question should be what do you want to do? I have done 91/135/121. When I left the regionals to fly business jets I had friends who left to go into law enforcement and now they are flying equipment for their respective operations. It just depends what do you want to do? what are you looking for? you are the only person who can answer that question.
 
Do many 135 operations besides scheduled freight give you a lot of time off? Like actual hard days off besides the legal 13 days off per the regs? I'm specifically referring to passenger charter ops
 
Bamaaviator said:
Do many 135 operations besides scheduled freight give you a lot of time off? Like actual hard days off besides the legal 13 days off per the regs? I'm specifically referring to passenger charter ops
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Some do, some don't. Many of the "entry level" charter places you are tied to a blackberry or phone with 13 days off per quarter. EMS usually gives 14 hard days off per month, excepting places like Eagle Air Med which work 20 on 10 off or similar schedules.
 
Bamaaviator said:
Do many 135 operations besides scheduled freight give you a lot of time off? Like actual hard days off besides the legal 13 days off per the regs? I'm specifically referring to passenger charter ops
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I get 15 hard days off per month. Same 15 every month.
 
For me it has a lot to do with the flying. I've only been doing this for 10 years or so but I'm flying a large cabin 3 engine jet as PIC to places like: Scotland, Ireland, Rome, Bora Bora and New Zealand.

I'm not sure if that is possible in the 121 world. At least not at a regional and not in the first 10 years of 121 flying. A friend of mine is flying at AA and is 15 years older than I. It took him a long time to get to fly international in a 767.

Also I think modern airline terminals are the 7th level of hell. I only airline 1 or 2 times a year and I loathe the experience. I'd love the perks of a 121 job but if I hear the announcement from the TSA one more time I'm going to lose my mind.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
For me it has a lot to do with the flying. I've only been doing this for 10 years or so but I'm flying a large cabin 3 engine jet as PIC to places like: Scotland, Ireland, Rome, Bora Bora and New Zealand.

I'm not sure if that is possible in the 121 world. At least not at a regional and not in the first 10 years of 121 flying. A friend of mine is flying at AA and is 15 years older than I. It took him a long time to get to fly international in a 767.

Also I think modern airline terminals are the 7th level of hell. I only airline 1 or 2 times a year and I loathe the experience. I'd love the perks of a 121 job but if I hear the announcement from the TSA one more time I'm going to lose my mind.
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Mmmm Falcons.
 
z987k said:
I get 15 hard days off per month. Same 15 every month.
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BEEF SUPREME said:
For me it has a lot to do with the flying. I've only been doing this for 10 years or so but I'm flying a large cabin 3 engine jet as PIC to places like: Scotland, Ireland, Rome, Bora Bora and New Zealand.

I'm not sure if that is possible in the 121 world. At least not at a regional and not in the first 10 years of 121 flying. A friend of mine is flying at AA and is 15 years older than I. It took him a long time to get to fly international in a 767.

Also I think modern airline terminals are the 7th level of hell. I only airline 1 or 2 times a year and I loathe the experience. I'd love the perks of a 121 job but if I hear the announcement from the TSA one more time I'm going to lose my mind.
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Depends on the company and base. AA's MIA international side is so junior it goes to new hires. At LUS, it only takes a year on property to bid over to the 757 international in PHL. CLT is another story. Some new hires have gotten it but QOL sucks as you'd be on short call for a very long time. DFW/LAX is the opposite.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
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It is so amazing being able to plan your life more than 12 days out. Oh you want to go to Thailand in October? Ya, I'm down.
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And I think I know my schedule for the next...year...2 years...depends on how long I have the job. I'm pretty sure that I have the next 6 Christmas Days off, too.
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I actually prefer to work the Holidays since they pay more, and I could give a crap less what magical day of the year I see my family. It means the same thing on the 10th of May as it does on the 25th of December.
 
z987k said:
It is so amazing being able to plan your life more than 12 days out. Oh you want to go to Thailand in October? Ya, I'm down.

I actually prefer to work the Holidays since they pay more, and I could give a crap less what magical day of the year I see my family. It means the same thing on the 10th of May as it does on the 25th of December.
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I mean, I can plan:
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Autothrust Blue said:
I mean, I can plan:
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Ya, that's the problem I have with even the major airline schedule. I don't want to work 4 on 4 off or something like that. I want to work all of them in a row. 117 doesn't even allow for that with the 1 off in 7. I know that I have never been more rested for flying than I am in this job. In fact I get significantly less rest when I'm not at work. I need large pieces of time off to do what I like to do with my life.
 
z987k said:
Ya, that's the problem I have with even the major airline schedule. I don't want to work 4 on 4 off or something like that. I want to work all of them in a row. 117 doesn't even allow for that with the 1 off in 7. I know that I have never been more rested for flying than I am in this job. In fact I get significantly less rest when I'm not at work. I need large pieces of time off to do what I like to do with my life.
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This isn't just a regional problem, but it's particularly pernicious here. And way less so at Dad's outfit.
 
z987k said:
I actually prefer to work the Holidays since they pay more, and I could give a crap less what magical day of the year I see my family. It means the same thing on the 10th of May as it does on the 25th of December.
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We have a couple of day after/before holidays that pay the bonus. That works, especially since my 5 and 9 y/o daughters have an issue with me not being there at 0500 on 12/25.

I think @Boris Badenov said it best when he said this is the best retirement gig in the industry. Too bad I still have over 20 yrs to go.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
Also I think modern airline terminals are the 7th level of hell. I only airline 1 or 2 times a year and I loathe the experience. I'd love the perks of a 121 job but if I hear the announcement from the TSA one more time I'm going to lose my mind.
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Man, do I hear that. My favorite trips are the ones where I go from freight side to freight side, not even seeing the passenger terminal. I loathe every second of it when I do have to fly commercially (unless of course, it's international biz/better with a lounge).

My only app out right now is for FedEx, actually... Freight is the best.
 
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