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Trip7 said:
IMO, and I'm sure I'll get flak for it, the FFDO program is completely unnecessary and a waste of resources.
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Exactly what "resources" are wasted? At my airline it's on your own dime and own time to get trained and approved.
 
Trip7 said:
IMO, the risk of a gun "accidentally" going off or an FFDO going postal is much higher than an individual(s) getting past that cockpit door
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Based on what data? How man FAMs have gone "postal" on your flights?
 
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ZapBrannigan said:
What if airplanes were designed with a second door between the forward galley and the passenger cabin?

This door would be closed whenever the cockpit crew needed to come out and could be latched open the rest of the time.

This would create a secure "vestibule" to make access to the forward lav easier and more secure. Further it could create a defensible "safe room" for FA's if there were bad guys in the main cabin.
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All of our 330s had secondary barriers installed.

Very convenient.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
UAL is rumored to be pulling theirs out of brand new 777s and 787s. :(
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That is purely idiotic.

Secondaries take some getting used to but after you've given your crew the "Well, Jo-Jo, the only constant is change in this business and there'll probably be an FOM revision the day of your retirement flight, so we can either embrace it or sit around bitching about it. But in the end, ultimately you must accept change or seek alternative employment" I believe most people will think they're amaze-balls.
 
PhilosopherPilot said:
Nice try. The Delta thread went from interview criteria to relative merits of college to a discussion about which soda is best. Keeping a thread with this many pages on topic isn't possible. :)
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That's actually one of the best parts of JC, IMO. I've been on other boards that failed at least partially because of mods zealously crushing any deviation from a narrowly defined subject. The conversation wanders here, but I always find it intelligent, insightful, and entertaining regardless. And it does usually come back to the original topic.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
What if airplanes were designed with a second door between the forward galley and the passenger cabin?

This door would be closed whenever the cockpit crew needed to come out and could be latched open the rest of the time.

This would create a secure "vestibule" to make access to the forward lav easier and more secure. Further it could create a defensible "safe room" for FA's if there were bad guys in the main cabin.
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Once I built a fort just aft of the Falcon galley with pillows, blankets and the inflatable beds.
 
ZapBrannigan said:
What if airplanes were designed with a second door between the forward galley and the passenger cabin?

This door would be closed whenever the cockpit crew needed to come out and could be latched open the rest of the time.

This would create a secure "vestibule" to make access to the forward lav easier and more secure. Further it could create a defensible "safe room" for FA's if there were bad guys in the main cabin.
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" how about some portholes, so the fellas can stick out their guns and shoot people. "
 
Derg said:
Just a quick non-sequitur story.

Caveat: It's a good program but, of course, there are a small handful of people in it that make my views on that quite… uhhh... challenging

Long layover in DC, years ago, and on the ride to the airport, the captain was having a one-way conversation with me about something I really didn't give a crap about. I can "nod and smile" with the best of them.

So I step out of the an and do my "trifecta" check — Money clip, telephone, ID. Crap, I can't find my ID.

Without even a pause, he starts giving me a lecture about doublechecking that I have it before I leave the hotel, and as an FFDO, in the post-9/11 world we live in, that ID can be as dangerous as a weapon.

Ok, whatever, but then I realize that it's actually in my coat pocket.

"Hey, where is your weapon?"

*panic*

He left it in the hotel van. DOH!
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I can tell you about the one time a passenger came up to my gate looking startled with a little case in hand and said "Um, I found this in the bathroom" and a few minutes later a legacy pilot came running into the bathroom, came running out, and I just held it up with a "looking for this?" look on my face. He was very thankful. I can't tell you what was in the case, of course. :)
 
Talking to a colleague here in Switzerland that was on a recent flight he mentioned that the pilot came on and made an announcement saying that he was happy, had a wife and kids, and was looking forward to seeing the snow melt so he could go to the beach. It seemed to calm the entire cabin. Meanwhile, my boss flew in from the US today and mentioned a lot of people were asking the FO if he was doing ok.
 
Runincolorado said:
Talking to a colleague here in Switzerland that was on a recent flight he mentioned that the pilot came on and made an announcement saying that he was happy, had a wife and kids, and was looking forward to seeing the snow melt so he could go to the beach. It seemed to calm the entire cabin. Meanwhile, my boss flew in from the US today and mentioned a lot of people were asking the FO if he was doing ok.
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"Just got back from Vegas folks. Great googley moogley did I lose my ass on the craps table. Flight time to Stockholm is…eh.. well, I don't know, we'll have to see how bad Eurocontrol is going to screw us this time with an EDC time… They're always screwing with us!" *slams cockpit door*
 
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