German Wings A320 crashed

Goonie said:
You go toe-to-toe with physics enough times you're gonna lose a few.
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There is some of that. Thing of it is, one in 10e-5 is larger than zero; and if you run more than 10e5 operations (or whatever unit you choose), then you're statistically bound to have an accident.

That said, I am reserving judgment.
 
pullup said:
Damn, 16 school children? Nothing worse than thinking of kids being killed, especially if they were aware they were going down.
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With that decent rate they probably didn't know they were going down to meet their maker. Unless they had mask out.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
There is some of that. Thing of it is, one in 10e-5 is larger than zero; and if you run more than 10e5 operations (or whatever unit you choose), then you're statistically bound to have an accident.

That said, I am reserving judgment.
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Didn't you post this in another thread recently? If not, then I'm having some serious déjà vu.
 
Derg said:
Well, sure, but do you know where FOQA stated people get themselves burned during high energy visual approaches? High speed, diving with the (comically useless) speedbrakes and ending up smokin' through 1000 feet fast, somewhat configured and on a ill-fated mission from god to get the jet on the ground.

AMARITE, @PeanuckleCRJ?

This really deserves it's own thread.
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Make it a new one please. We don't need to detract with our shenanigans during this tragedy.
 
Derg said:
The bus only speedily descends well when slow and dirty. It's weird.
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Aerodynamically the highest decent rate is achieved at the maximum permissible horizontal speed....but the rate of decent is limited by the drag the plane creates, the Airbus reaches the highest achievable drag at a lower airspeed then other airplanes, that's why going faster does not increase the rate of decent.
 
Cruise said:
IF it starts acting wonky, turn off 2 ADIRS (no circuit breaker popping required) and force the plane into Alternate Law. Fly plane normally, land, change shorts, have adult beverage. Fly again another day.
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Or you could, you know, fly airplanes that only deal with the laws of physics instead of some ridiculous list of "laws" that some French engineer pulled out of his ass. [/airbushate]
 
ATN_Pilot said:
some ridiculous list of "laws" that some French engineer pulled out of his ass. [/airbushate]
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Or some ridiculous list of "hydraulics" which some American engineer pulled out of his. Nope, the British got it right...cables. Directly to control surfaces! None of this new-fangled nonsense. If they really wanted to make "progress", they'd figure out a way for me to reach back there and pull on it myself!

Actually, airplanes are pretty uppity themselves, upon reflection. What we need to do is concentrate on building a better train...or, well, maybe a better oxcart...
 
JordanD said:
I can't imagine being the employee that would have to break the news to people either.
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I know the guy who broke that news at SFO. He was in AS ops and the flight was and still is(AS222/223 now) a "round robin" with the same crew. Talked to the captain that morning out on the ramp looking up at the tail of the plane ironically as they talked about how close the US Airways 757s got to gate 20. The guy was on the phone with LAX checking up on the rolling delay when the crash was confirmed to LAX with him on the line. He still can't tell the story without crying all these years later.
 
Runincolorado said:
I am floored with those photos. So very little of that plane is recognizable.
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I wonder if this will show the foil-hatters that an airliner can leave only little pieces?


Derg said:
.... Midwest Express/Skyway.
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...ahhhhh Skyway.


Goonie said:
You go toe-to-toe with physics enough times you're gonna lose a few.
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"Gravity always wins."


Boris Badenov said:
Or some ridiculous list of "hydraulics" which some American engineer pulled out of his. Nope, the British got it right...cables. Directly to control surfaces! None of this new-fangled nonsense. If they really wanted to make "progress", they'd figure out a way for me to reach back there and pull on it myself!

Actually, airplanes are pretty uppity themselves, upon reflection. What we need to do is concentrate on building a better train...or, well, maybe a better oxcart...
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I'm curious. What controlled those airplane turning thingies on your precious Moo-Too?
 
Derg said:
Well, sure, but do you know where FOQA stated people get themselves burned during high energy visual approaches? High speed, diving with the (comically useless) speedbrakes and ending up smokin' through 1000 feet fast, somewhat configured and on a ill-fated mission from god to get the jet on the ground.

AMARITE, @PeanuckleCRJ?

This really deserves it's own thread.
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I'm no pilot. But I think that I'd just go missed...
 
Well I mean arguably a SEALED hydraulic system like the dead sexsee roll spoilers of the MU-2 is at least as reliable and low-tech as cables to ailerons....all of those turnbuckles and various sharp bits to get caught on. Why, I wouldn't get NEAR a plane with CABLES for roll control. Death traps!
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Says the guy with 0 Airbus time.
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I don't either. Is it true this is next to the gear selector.

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