Delta/Endeavor SSP Extended to All Pilots

Autothrust Blue said:
Actually, it does suck: the system is biased towards the married.
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ATN_Pilot said:
Don't forget the brat kids.
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And it shouldn't.

I'm sure I'm on every married parents "Must Kill Now" list, but tax advantages for having a marriage certificate and/or having children are counterintuitive.

Otherwise, two people buy a hot dog. @Autothrust Blue pays 8.25% sales tax, I pay 6% because I'm married and @scooter2525 pays 4.5% because he's both married with children.
 
Derg said:
And it shouldn't.

I'm sure I'm on every married parents "Must Kill Now" list, but tax advantages for having a marriage certificate and/or having children are counterintuitive.

Otherwise, two people buy a hot dog. @Autothrust Blue pays 8.25% sales tax, I pay 6% because I'm married and @scooter2525 pays 4.5% because he's both married with children.
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But people like Scooter and I need to buy more hot dogs so we should get a better break,,,, ;-)

<running to grab some chalk>
 
wheelsup said:
It costs lots of money to raise kids. The entire country benefits from citizen growth. Japan is going to have a heck of a time dealing with a declining population.
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I know, but that should also factor in the decision making process.

Children are only as expensive as you let them become. People, in general, blur the hell out of the "need versus want" divider all the darn time.
 
Derg said:
I know, but that should also factor in the decision making process.

Children are only as expensive as you let them become. People, in general, blur the hell out of the "need versus want" divider all the darn time.
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+1. I hear a sob story every now and then about sending 3+ kids to out of state schools causing them to live paycheck to paycheck on 200k.
 
Derg said:
I used to hear it all the time.
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ATN_Pilot said:
Don't care. If you can't afford them, don't have them. No one is choosing to have kids because of tax breaks, so there is no legitimate argument for using it as an incentive.
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I don't have kids yet, but am married. From my married friends, many of them state the difference in the wife working is childcare costs and the tax ramifications. The argument can go both ways, but if the wife works, you pay for childcare. Still get the deduction, but at a 12K+ yearly expense (roughly) per kiddo. If the wife didn't work it would be a lower tax bracket and a 12K savings on family finances. Look at all sides when passing judgment. My wife and I are DINKS, but her income on top of mine and investment income is just more paid at a higher tax bracket.

Let's simplify it with a flat tax and no deductions. Let's circumvent the issues of married or child filing status/deductions. Consumption taxes still remain. In TN (where I live) there is no state income tax, but I pay 9.75% sales tax on pretty much everything I "consume". Houses/cars/boats don't count the same way.
 
Derg said:
And it shouldn't.

I'm sure I'm on every married parents "Must Kill Now" list, but tax advantages for having a marriage certificate and/or having children are counterintuitive.

Otherwise, two people buy a hot dog. @Autothrust Blue pays 8.25% sales tax, I pay 6% because I'm married and @scooter2525 pays 4.5% because he's both married with children.
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*dead look in eyes* "but they're such a blessing..."
 
wheelsup said:
It costs lots of money to raise kids. The entire country benefits from citizen growth. Japan is going to have a heck of a time dealing with a declining population.
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I have a hard time believing that. A decline would certainly be bad, but eventually you reach a point where maybe it's not so great. I'd say that happens right around the time when a lot of jobs are replaced by technology and unemployment is high.

That and getting stuck behind a school bus makes me want to hurt people. Seriously...every house?
 
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